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Champion Hurdle 2021

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  • If Concertisata was mine id run her in the champ hurdle but I cant see them doing this, obviously NRNB so no issue, but wouldnt be backing run only

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    • If the Honey and concertista did run here they'd almost certainly be second and third favourite.

      One thing that may possibly make Concertista more likely to end up here is the return of Burning Victory for the mares hurdle.

      Haven't heard anything about her mind you.

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      • Originally posted by billymag View Post
        If Concertisata was mine id run her in the champ hurdle but I cant see them doing this, obviously NRNB so no issue, but wouldnt be backing run only
        If she were mine I'd definitely run her in the irish champion hurdle then if she wins come here

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        • Originally posted by Hardy Eustace View Post
          If the Honey and concertista did run here they'd almost certainly be second and third favourite.

          One thing that may possibly make Concertista more likely to end up here is the return of Burning Victory for the mares hurdle.

          Haven't heard anything about her mind you.
          Willie's got Elfile too. She was 3rd last year in the Mares Hurdle so has every chance this year . Not seen her yet but maybe she'll have one run in the Quevega and then straight to Cheltenham ??

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          • From RP

            Honeysuckle, who remains unbeaten, will defend her crown in the newly sponsored Chanelle Pharma Irish Champion Hurdle on February 6 and a decision on her Cheltenham target will not be made until afterwards.

            The trainer said: "Aspire Tower is a big horse and I just looked at him today and thought to myself, 'God, he's really filling out'. He really looks great now. He's lightly raced and you'd like to think there's more to come and that his best days are ahead of him. He'll head straight to Cheltenham and to the Champion Hurdle.

            "Honeysuckle is in mighty form. We're aiming her for the Irish Champion Hurdle and getting her ready for that is the main target at the moment. The Champion Hurdle picture looks more open now, but we'll see how the Irish Champion Hurdle goes first and then decide what way to go at Cheltenham

            Got to think she goes Champion if winning Irish.

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            • What price would people have her to run in either race?

              2/5 Mares
              7/4 CH

              Or am I looking at this with rose tinted glasses?? (every multiple I have her in is for the MH!)

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              • Originally posted by Hardy Eustace View Post
                What price would people have her to run in either race?

                2/5 Mares
                7/4 CH

                Or am I looking at this with rose tinted glasses?? (every multiple I have her in is for the MH!)
                If she wins ICH you wouldn't get any odds on her running in the English version.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                  If she wins ICH you wouldn't get any odds on her running in the English version.
                  Depends how she wins imo

                  If she jumps poorly and just holds on like last year she will go the mares youd think

                  If she jumps better and wins easily then she goes to the champion hurdle with a live chance

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                  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                    Depends how she wins imo

                    If she jumps poorly and just holds on like last year she will go the mares youd think

                    If she jumps better and wins easily then she goes to the champion hurdle with a live chance
                    Worth the 7/1 NRNB do you think then?

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                    • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                      Depends how she wins imo

                      If she jumps poorly and just holds on like last year she will go the mares youd think

                      If she jumps better and wins easily then she goes to the champion hurdle with a live chance
                      I'd agree with this and imo wouldn't back Honeysuckle now until after the ICH. If she wins she'll probably go for the CH and if she loses her Mares Hurdle price will probably be pushed out slightly.

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                      • Originally posted by taylorch1990 View Post

                        I'd agree with this and imo wouldn't back Honeysuckle now until after the ICH. If she wins she'll probably go for the CH and if she loses her Mares Hurdle price will probably be pushed out slightly.
                        If she wins and does go CH, what price do you think she'd be?

                        Bigger than 7/1?

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                        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                          Depends how she wins imo

                          If she jumps poorly and just holds on like last year she will go the mares youd think

                          If she jumps better and wins easily then she goes to the champion hurdle with a live chance
                          Lobos I have to agree with you on this, I think regardless of the victory she’ll go the Champion Hurdle. If people crab her jumping and she still wins does that not show how good she is? If she can beat the best of the Irish jumping poorly as a 2miler.

                          On paper this years renewal will look stronger than last years imo, so beating that potential field means possibly only 2 of the English she’d need to worry about and 1 of those get 7lbs from in Silver Streak. Epatante obviously the other.

                          Unless they are just scared to have another number or letter next to her form other than a 1.

                          100% has to take her chance if winning back to back Irish Champions surely

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                            Worth the 7/1 NRNB do you think then?
                            Tough one

                            if she wins and still looks a slow jumper and they run in the champion hurdle anyway you've probably chucked your money away

                            but then if she wins and jumps better you've got 7/1 on what will likely be a 3/1 second fav

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                              Tough one

                              if she wins and still looks a slow jumper and they run in the champion hurdle anyway you've probably chucked your money away

                              but then if she wins and jumps better you've got 7/1 on what will likely be a 3/1 second fav
                              See I'd be going each way even at 7/1 now it's NRNB.

                              Even though I don't really fancy her for it, if she wins the ICH, even poorly, it's not easy to pick 3 that'll definitely keep her out of the frame.



                              Weighing up optimum versus actual ability in her case?

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                              • Off debate here...

                                Anyone hear anything about how Saldier came out of christmas?

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