Related Doubles (ideas)

[Carnage at Taunton]

Which horses in particular do you think the ground caused them to run considerably below par in the last year or so at the Festival?

I've put above what seemed to be the two most ground dependent horses with big chances last year and they both pissed in on ground they supposedly hate. They drifted from their ante post price, drifted on the day and the ground proved no bother.

As I said, unless it's a road (will never happen) or heavy ground like Haydock can be (again I don't think Cheltenham would ever get like that and Haydock heavy does suit some horses in particualr) it's one more variable to worry about that would be low down my list of things to consider for Cheltenham.

I’ve been into this game for years. I’m not even going to begin to attempt to list horses.
We all know some horses go better on different surfaces.

[Quevega]

No apology needed at all Fascinating combination of tasks. I’d prioritise the cheese and crackers personally.

I did, that was the issue.

I read the first line of your post, and not the rest.
And the first paragraph of the 15 page document for the insurance before getting fed up and replying that I'd like to renew. Hopefully the rest of it wasn't important, and the same as last years, although I can't remember if I read that either.

[Kevloaf]

I’ve been into this game for years. I’m not even going to begin to attempt to list horses.
We all know some horses go better on different surfaces.

I believe their point is, about how much importance we (the average punter / 'you') put on it, is too highly weighted for the evidence we have.

I'm not that fussed about ground either to be honest unless it's really extreme conditions .... as an ante post punter, if anyone really cared about the ground then they shouldn't be making any bets at all as it's such a 'big unknown'?


Related doubles thread .... so unless it's which soft ground horses we should be backing together in the hope of rain (Bioluminescence?) and ..... etc

[Benjy23]

A selection of form related doubles I've recently placed or intend to...

Final Demand & Wingmen - Turners & Bartlett (DRF form) The New Lion & Electric Mason - Turners & Martin Pipe (EM ran behind TNL twice)
Answer to Kayf & Betterdaysahead - JR & BANC (MP form from last year)
Hot Fuss & East India Dock - FW & Triumph (that 4 lengths is the closest anyone has got to EID all season)
Hot Fuss & Marble Sands - FW & Plate (all weather 1-2 prep )
Trelawne & Iroko - Ultima & Grand National
Transmission / Haiti & Moon D'Orange


Some boring stuff and some real speculative stuff in there. Potentially covering some I've not yet though, or just want hope of more on.

I'm sure there's a whole load more in the handicaps that make more sense, but targets becomes a bit of an issue. Suggestions welcome though. Not much else happening this week for me...