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  • Originally posted by BalthazarKing View Post

    Bravemansgame FNC & Galopin Des Champs Turners is best price 29/1 with SB worth a couple of points cover incase this happens
    Did that one last week, and threw in Honey and Shishkin as well. Came to 142/1 (obviously pre-Shishkin run). Worth it just in case.

    Kevin Blake was mooting GDC staying at the mid trip on the Weighed In podcast today, which is just what I needed…

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    • Lateral one.....but about Jockeys

      Have to assume rachael rides APT.....so key for Minella is having Jack up....who seems to ride him best

      That depends on where Mount Ida goes....hopefully in Mares Chase

      So double.....Minella and Ida
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      • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
        Lateral one.....but about Jockeys

        Have to assume rachael rides APT.....so key for Minella is having Jack up....who seems to ride him best

        That depends on where Mount Ida goes....hopefully in Mares Chase

        So double.....Minella and Ida
        Depends if Delta Work goes to the Gold Cup as Gordon would want Jack on him, even though he hasn't got a chance.

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        • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

          Depends if Delta Work goes to the Gold Cup as Gordon would want Jack on him, even though he hasn't got a chance.
          Poor Jack

          He couldn't win the Cartmel Gold Cup now

          Important for Minella tho i think......only just beat APT.....and need and deserves a top pilot
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          • Originally posted by Mighty View Post

            Did that one last week, and threw in Honey and Shishkin as well. Came to 142/1 (obviously pre-Shishkin run). Worth it just in case.

            Kevin Blake was mooting GDC staying at the mid trip on the Weighed In podcast today, which is just what I needed…
            Haven’t listened yet but this is trademark Blake isn’t it - no doubt he went on to say “the best taking on the best” then moaned about mid range trips and bumpers..

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            • With the market momentum seeming to be for Vauban at Leopardstown, and Pied Piper apparently an intended runner at Cheltenham this weekend… I’ve just added a 1pt related double of Vauban (DRF) and Pied Piper (TH). Got almost 54/1 with William Hill boost

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              • Originally posted by Ballyfitz View Post
                With the market momentum seeming to be for Vauban at Leopardstown, and Pied Piper apparently an intended runner at Cheltenham this weekend… I’ve just added a 1pt related double of Vauban (DRF) and Pied Piper (TH). Got almost 54/1 with William Hill boost
                A related double i like is Vauban for triumph and Gaelic Warrior for boodles.

                A few months back there was a sudden spike in money for Gaelic Warrior for the triumph, out of nowhere. Presumably this was stable money , and presumably this was because they thought he was pretty good.

                Both Vauban and Gaelic Warrior are owned by Rich Ricci trained by Mullins.

                Im taking a punt that the triumph was the plan for Gaelic Warrior, however Vauban has overtaken him as the stable/owners number 1 for that race. Sustained money in recent days for GW for the Boodles would indicate that they are going to be split, and im hoping that the early seasons signs that he was very good prove to be true. Best priced 71/1 with coral/ladbrokes

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                • Can't fathom this gamble on GW for the Fred Winter. Was it the UTA guys that tipped him up ?? Mullins record in that race is like a horror story. I always steer clear of Willie's in that race.

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                    Can't fathom this gamble on GW for the Fred Winter. Was it the UTA guys that tipped him up ?? Mullins record in that race is like a horror story. I always steer clear of Willie's in that race.

                    ​​​​​​Aye, he's getting the kind of attention in the betting that the handicapper must pick up as well! The kind of price I'd happily let him win at without backing, and still think I'd made the right decision.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      Can't fathom this gamble on GW for the Fred Winter. Was it the UTA guys that tipped him up ?? Mullins record in that race is like a horror story. I always steer clear of Willie's in that race.
                      Horror story is probably a little bit harsh. He finished 2nd in it last season with Saint Sam, he had no runner the season before, Ciel De Neige finished 3rd the year before that, and that's as far as I can be bothered to look right now. Recent seasons have been promising.

                      It's the whole Gold Cup scenario all over again. He hadn't won a GC until Al Boum Photo popped up.

                      It's only a matter of time, IMO, before he wins the Boodles.

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                      • 4 words that should always strike fear into the heart of a trends guy are "Willie Mullins has never", unless the sentence ends "handicap chase"

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                        • It's a graveyard for favourites as well from my memory. Not a race I get involved in until the week and never had any success then either in view of some of the rags that have won. Horrible race for punters unless you are on the winner that is !

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                          • Originally posted by robith View Post
                            4 words that should always strike fear into the heart of a trends guy are "Willie Mullins has never", unless the sentence ends "handicap chase"
                            or Champion Chase.

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                            • Originally posted by SharpHat View Post

                              A related double i like is Vauban for triumph and Gaelic Warrior for boodles.

                              Im taking a punt that the triumph was the plan for Gaelic Warrior, however Vauban has overtaken him as the stable/owners number 1 for that race. Sustained money in recent days for GW for the Boodles would indicate that they are going to be split, and im hoping that the early seasons signs that he was very good prove to be true. Best priced 71/1 with coral/ladbrokes
                              The sustained money for Vauban for me has been telling too - Ricci over the years has always had the Supreme hot pot, doesn’t have as many runners in the Triumph (or ones that are fancied) which I thought was interesting too. He’s been consistently backed down from 33s the past couple of weeks into 6s in some places now despite having run only once prior to the movement. He wins at the DRF & he’ll be clear fav. There’s nothing laid on the Exchanges for him either so someone’s got money down somewhere on him. That double could well end up quite appealing…

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                              • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
                                Should have been up before the race ideally but the Blue Bresil Double

                                Constitution Hill and Blue Lord for the first two races at Cheltenham
                                The Blue Bresil Double is looking a bit better now

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