Related Doubles (ideas)

[Lobos]

Anything concrete regarding JWM AB and Gerri BM ?

I have a 900-1 double but in opposite races

Safe to say no one knows for sure ATM

[nortonscoin200]

FULL BACK (Ultima) 25-1

and

DUNBOYNE (Pertemps) 14-1


Full Back was 2nd and Dunboyne 4th in the same Bartlemy ptp where they made their debut in 2019.

Prices are PP/BF

[Kevloaf]

If Shishkin and Energumene are set to clash on Saturday at Ascot.... then 21.5/1 for Shishkin to win on Saturday and Energumene to win the Ryanair will be of interest for me.

If Shishkin walloped him, that surely ends Energumene's QMCC hopes.

A close run thing and of course they'll much more likely rematch, but it'll be worth considering when we get towards the end of this week!

[Exar Essay]

If Shishkin and Energumene are set to clash on Saturday at Ascot.... then 21.5/1 for Shishkin to win on Saturday and Energumene to win the Ryanair will be of interest for me.

If Shishkin walloped him, that surely ends Energumene's QMCC hopes.

A close run thing and of course they'll much more likely rematch, but it'll be worth considering when we get towards the end of this week!

I like the idea, Kev. Worth considering a deconstructed double as well? If Energumene is pumped by Shishkin, he might drift after the race for the Ryanair.

[TigerRolllllll]

If Shishkin and Energumene are set to clash on Saturday at Ascot.... then 21.5/1 for Shishkin to win on Saturday and Energumene to win the Ryanair will be of interest for me.

If Shishkin walloped him, that surely ends Energumene's QMCC hopes.

A close run thing and of course they'll much more likely rematch, but it'll be worth considering when we get towards the end of this week!

Great idea - Will prob do

What tho if Energumene were to thump Shiskin? Pretty sure Nicky sticks with it whatever

[Kevloaf]

Great idea - Will prob do

What tho if Energumene were to thump Shiskin? Pretty sure Nicky sticks with it whatever

Then the bet is dead in the water....

[Kevloaf]

I like the idea, Kev. Worth considering a deconstructed double as well? If Energumene is pumped by Shishkin, he might drift after the race for the Ryanair.

Yeah always worth considering.

I personally would see this as less likely... but definitely always worth considering.

[Lobos]

If Shishkin smashed Energumene and sends him down the Ryanair route and Chacun doesn't make the Fez due to his injury woes, does Mullins go empty handed in the Champion Chase??

[Kevloaf]

If Shishkin smashed Energumene and sends him down the Ryanair route and Chacun doesn't make the Fez due to his injury woes, does Mullins go empty handed in the Champion Chase??

Gone back 12 years

2010 - Golden Silver 33/1
2011 - Golden Silver 11/1
2012 - no runner
2013 - no runner
2014 - Arvika Ligeonniere 8/1
2015 - no runner
2016 - Un De Sceaux 4/6 and Felix Yonger 11/1
2017 - Douvan 2/9
2018 - Min 5/2 and Douvan 9/2
2019 - Min 7/2
2020 - no runner (CPS NR on the day)
2021 - CPS 8/13 and Cilaos Emery 12/1


To sum up.
I dunno.

[TigerRolllllll]

Then the bet is dead in the water....

Meant is the reverse also true? And assuming not

Willie despite for CC and has fav for Ryanair, so have to be a thrashing....that said i will do it....as its clever and prob value

[Kevloaf]

Meant is the reverse also true? And assuming not

Willie despite for CC and has fav for Ryanair, so have to be a thrashing....that said i will do it....as its clever and prob value

Ah right yeah I see.

Can't actually see any prices for Shishkin in the Ryanair now

[Benjy23]

Ah right yeah I see.

Can't actually see any prices for Shishkin in the Ryanair now

Didn't even get an entry. That's the confidence they have for the CC

[Kevloaf]

Didn't even get an entry. That's the confidence they have for the CC

Rightly so.

Wouldn't have been attempted the reverse related double myself.


If they are both still due to run, at final declarations, I think I'll do the Shishkin / Energumene Ryanair double as highlighted on the page back.

I'd genuinely prefer a really close battle that demands a rematch...

...and cna't do the bet beforehand in case one doesn't show up at Ascot.

[TigerRolllllll]

Ah right yeah I see.

Can't actually see any prices for Shishkin in the Ryanair now

You put up this idea when Altior and Cyrname clashed and i did then......almost worked brilliantly....so like it

But i think would need a defining no-chace for Ener run as Willie wants QM is much

I do think Ener might take Shiskin out of his comfort zone....and be backing him if they do meet and get 2s plus

[Kevloaf]

You put up this idea when Altior and Cyrname clashed and i did then......almost worked brilliantly....so like it

But i think would need a defining no-chace for Ener run as Willie wants QM is much

I do think Ener might take Shiskin out of his comfort zone....and be backing him if they do meet and get 2s plus

Yeah it's not as good an opportunity as that one looked.... it needs a very specific result (and style of result).

Still, have to explore all the angles


Fairly low risk though regardless I think.