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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Honey going Churdle so stick Concertista in the Mares Hurdle .
    Lot of water to go under the bridge yeh.
    Personally don't think she'd win a CH but obvious place claims.

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    • Originally posted by Crolwey113 View Post

      Lot of water to go under the bridge yeh.
      Personally don't think she'd win a CH but obvious place claims.
      No, Eptante wins the Churdle.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Honey going Churdle so stick Concertista in the Mares Hurdle .
        7/2 Mares 16/1 CH. Go figure.

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        • Originally posted by charlie View Post

          7/2 Mares 16/1 CH. Go figure.
          You could say the same re Benie but it hasn't stopped people backing her for the Mares Chase. I've got Honey covered for the Mares Hurdle but I don't expect her to end up there, I really don't and connections aren't convinced either.......


          "I'd imagine we'll treat the season in two halves for her," explained Molony.

          "She could start off in the Hatton's Grace at Fairyhouse before going on to the Irish Champion Hurdle, just like last year. It's going to be interesting to see how she gets on against all those good novice hurdlers from last season.

          "From there, we'll see how she gets on and weigh up our options. There's a chance she could go a different route than last year after that depending on how the season unfolds.
          Last edited by Lobos; 8 November 2020, 07:16 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            You could say the same re Benie but it hasn't stopped people backing her for the Mares Chase. I've got Honey covered for the Mares Hurdle but I don't expect her to end up there, I really don't and connections aren't convinced either.......


            "I'd imagine we'll treat the season in two halves for her," explained Molony.

            "She could start off in the Hatton's Grace at Fairyhouse before going on to the Irish Champion Hurdle, just like last year. It's going to be interesting to see how she gets on against all those good novice hurdlers from last season.

            "From there, we'll see how she gets on and weigh up our options. There's a chance she could go a different route than last year after that depending on how the season unfolds.
            I wouldn't say that re Benie though as the discrepancy between her mares price and chase price (B365 5/1 and 7/1) is no way near as stark as the price differential on Honeysuckle for the Mares/Champion.

            My OP was trying to give a sense of market perspective Lobos because I know you want it to happen, but we know quite a lot about her and she's 16/1 for the Champion and 7/2 for the Mares. IMO that says two things. One, the bookies think she's far more likely to go mares and two, the boookies are happy offering 16/1 because her form (at the moment) is clearly better over 2m4f than 2m. Neither are ringing endorsements of a CH campaign, but of course anything could change and she could prove me wrong and do wonderful things in the Irish Champion Hurdle, so we'll see.


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            • Originally posted by charlie View Post

              I wouldn't say that re Benie though as the discrepancy between her mares price and chase price (B365 5/1 and 7/1) is no way near as stark as the price differential on Honeysuckle for the Mares/Champion.

              My OP was trying to give a sense of market perspective Lobos because I know you want it to happen, but we know quite a lot about her and she's 16/1 for the Champion and 7/2 for the Mares. IMO that says two things. One, the bookies think she's far more likely to go mares and two, the boookies are happy offering 16/1 because her form (at the moment) is clearly better over 2m4f than 2m. Neither are ringing endorsements of a CH campaign, but of course anything could change and she could prove me wrong and do wonderful things in the Irish Champion Hurdle, so we'll see.

              I don't want it to happen though. I've backed Honey TWAR and for the Mares Hurdle and in doubles. I've got plenty happening with Epatante as well. I just think it will happen so I've now covered her in the Churdle as well. I'll end up with two good darts, probably the two best darts, at the Champion Hurdle but I'd rather have two winners !

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              • Morning campers,

                This won't be for everyone and given the uncertainty around 2 of the 3 targets should NOT be used with anything other than free bets but how do you like these apples...

                The ballymore 1-2-3 looks one of the strongest pieces of form on offer from the festival so why not do a cheeky treble or trixie on...

                1) EA (Marsh)
                2) Easywork (RSA)
                3) The Big Getaway (NHC)

                The treble pays 1773.5/1 with Skybet. Bigger prices may be available but sky offer the weekly freebet so that was the logical place to start.

                Worth a free bet?

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                • Originally posted by Hardy Eustace View Post
                  Morning campers,

                  This won't be for everyone and given the uncertainty around 2 of the 3 targets should NOT be used with anything other than free bets but how do you like these apples...

                  The ballymore 1-2-3 looks one of the strongest pieces of form on offer from the festival so why not do a cheeky treble or trixie on...

                  1) EA (Marsh)
                  2) Easywork (RSA)
                  3) The Big Getaway (NHC)

                  The treble pays 1773.5/1 with Skybet. Bigger prices may be available but sky offer the weekly freebet so that was the logical place to start.

                  Worth a free bet?
                  Yep, a good one.

                  EA with Easywork has been mentioned already and I'm sure EA with The Big Getaway (RSA) will also be in some people's plans.....

                  Free bet makes sense though, could feasibly happen without too much needing to click into place.

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                  • Been thinking about perming the first four in the Albert Bartlett for a while - and added today as two of them are running and will likely be cut should they win (definitely Fury Road anyway).

                    Added 4x0.25pt doubles - Monkfish 10/1 / Latest Exhibition 10/1 (RSA) with Thyme Hill 11/1 / Fury Road 20/1 (Stayers).

                    Done as separate bets to enable individual “lines” to be cashed out.

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                    • Originally posted by Ballyfitz View Post
                      Been thinking about perming the first four in the Albert Bartlett for a while - and added today as two of them are running and will likely be cut should they win (definitely Fury Road anyway).

                      Added 4x0.25pt doubles - Monkfish 10/1 / Latest Exhibition 10/1 (RSA) with Thyme Hill 11/1 / Fury Road 20/1 (Stayers).

                      Done as separate bets to enable individual “lines” to be cashed out.
                      Copied this, I think I've already done some of them somewhere but doing it before two of them run today at odds on makes sense.

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                      • Obvious one from today.....Ferny (Sup), Bob (Bally)
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                        • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                          Obvious one from today.....Ferny (Sup), Bob (Bally)
                          Yep, done this one straight after the race

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                          • Just added the Shewearsitwell / Gauloise Supreme/Mares Novice double at 389/1. The related bit being that if SWIW beats the boys, Mullins would only divert her from the Mares Novice if he had a ready made replacement. It's a bit far fetched I think but I've backed it anyway because I said it.


                            Just thinking about the Royal Bond this weekend, what about Ballyadam with Shewearsitwell?



                            If Ballyadam wins, or they finish very close then surely it's unlikely Mullins opts for the tougher race. If they finish close, do both enhance there claims?

                            What about backing Ballyadam to win the Royal Bond with Shewearsitwell in the Mares Novice.... if he beats her, surely she has no chance of going Supreme, however she may enhance her claims still and even if "well beaten" we don't know for sure that isn't still good enough for this mares division?

                            Or, what about Shewearsitwell for the Royal Bond with Ballyadam Supreme? Nah hat doesn't have any logic to it.


                            I'm going to bed, Spectre - feel free to work any angles for us

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                            • I’ve done the SWIW Supreme / Gauloise MNH ew double. I like it. I think the other one to do is Ballyadam Supreme / SWIW MNH double. I think that’s the way SWIW is targeted based on the result, and Ballyadam’s chances of winning the Supreme are diminished if he’s turned over by her. If he beats her she goes to the MNH and she’s still the best novice mare we’ve seen so far. Not just that, she’s already set a very high bar for the mares to beat, including Gauloise.
                              Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                              • I am still of the opinion that Ballyadam is more likely to go for the Ballymore but if Shewearsitwell was to beat Ballyadam in the Royal Bond, then chances are that WM will know only too well the comparative form line with Ferny Hollow. If so does he advise CP to send FH to the Ballymore for a clearer run at that and send Ballyadam to the Supreme. So maybe a related double worth considering is SWIW Supreme / Ferny Hollow Ballymore at 250-1 plus (admittedly unlikely but if SWIW proves to be that good, yiu never know).

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