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  • Originally posted by riccirich View Post

    Fast forward about 11.5 months from now:

    "you got constitution hill, state man, kopek/anzadam/munny/new lion etc in the champion hurdle, it looks a tough race to try and win this year. I know it's been the three year plan with lossie but thats really only on the basis that its a walkover. She's won the mares twice and it looks the easier race again this year. And paul has indicated he would like to ride state man/kopek/anzadam. And also (Insert a nonsense of your choosing here from the following list 1.shes not working as well as we'd like 2.its the right thing for the mare 3.shes still a young horse, there's always next year)
    Don’t forget the ‘She’s only a 7yo’.

    Yeah that was my point, so hard predicting where Mares will go because their same sex races are always the easier option.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if all 3 mentioned by BuckingThe Trend head for different races….

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    • They will change something around the mares races though.
      I'd be pretty sure of that.
      Just not sure how far they will go.
      Hoping they move the Hurdle and Chase altogether myself.

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      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
        They will change something around the mares races though.
        I'd be pretty sure of that.
        Just not sure how far they will go.
        Hoping they move the Hurdle and Chase altogether myself.
        Agree - Id be amazed if the conditions weren't changed to either prevent Lossiemouth running (e.g. no Grade 1 winners) or to severely compromise her chance (e.g. 10lb grade 1 penalty).

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        • Originally posted by Prestbury View Post

          Agree - Id be amazed if the conditions weren't changed to either prevent Lossiemouth running (e.g. no Grade 1 winners) or to severely compromise her chance (e.g. 10lb grade 1 penalty).
          Not sure it sits well potentially penalising previous winners of a G1 in a G1.
          They've developed the mares programme and aren't going back in it.
          The issue they created for themselves was promoting the Mares Hurdle to a G1, it's seen as the pinnacle race in the UK mares calendar, but means the champion hurdle suffers as a result.
          If they do the same with the Mares Chase we riot....

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          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

            Not sure it sits well potentially penalising previous winners of a G1 in a G1.
            They've developed the mares programme and aren't going back in it.
            The issue they created for themselves was promoting the Mares Hurdle to a G1, it's seen as the pinnacle race in the UK mares calendar, but means the champion hurdle suffers as a result.
            If they do the same with the Mares Chase we riot....
            Yes - penalties would mean downgrading to Grade 2. Maybe they will be more creative but they surely wont want Lossiemouth doing a repeat in the race next year.

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            • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

              What price do you think those three all end up taking in those targets ?
              Wodhooh 5/2 Fav (No Lossiemouth, No Brighterdaysahead, No Jade de Grugy)
              Lossiemouth 5/2 2nd Fav
              Spindleberry 5/1 (Behind Dinoblue and Brighterdaysahead in betting)

              Am I thinking straight ? Help !

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              • Originally posted by BuckingThe Trend View Post

                Wodhooh 5/2 Fav (No Lossiemouth, No Brighterdaysahead, No Jade de Grugy)
                Lossiemouth 5/2 2nd Fav
                Spindleberry 5/1 (Behind Dinoblue and Brighterdaysahead in betting)

                Am I thinking straight ? Help !
                I meant what price that they all actually turn up in the races you say.
                Wodhooh looks a Stayers horse to me and all the time the 7lb allowance exists she'd go there with a serious chance, I think she could win a Mares Hurdle but 20f on the Old Course won't play to her strengths, she looks made for 24f on the New Course to me...

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                • I hear you but my senses tell me Gordon ain't falling for that 7lb allowance "trick" again. She is owned by friends of Gordon and he will want them to have the joy of a first Festival winner and she is only 5 years old, six next year. Mares Hurdle winner 2026 and Stayers 2027. I really like her for the Mares Hurdle next March. Have I convinced you ?

                  As an aside what do you think of my price predictions for 2026 races ? Would I lose my shirt as a bookie ?

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                  • Just done a little jp yankee for not too much money. The new lion (ch) majborough (ark) f2f (Ryanair) iknowthewayirthinkin (gc) @ 1175/1.

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                    • Originally posted by BuckingThe Trend View Post
                      I hear you but my senses tell me Gordon ain't falling for that 7lb allowance "trick" again. She is owned by friends of Gordon and he will want them to have the joy of a first Festival winner and she is only 5 years old, six next year. Mares Hurdle winner 2026 and Stayers 2027. I really like her for the Mares Hurdle next March. Have I convinced you ?

                      As an aside what do you think of my price predictions for 2026 races ? Would I lose my shirt as a bookie ?
                      She just won at the festival mate

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                      • Ah. Good spot. Slight oversight. Should have read "She is owned by friends of Gordon and he will want them to have the joy of a first Festival G1 winner and she is only 5 years old, six next year.​"

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                        • Originally posted by BuckingThe Trend View Post
                          Ah. Good spot. Slight oversight. Should have read "She is owned by friends of Gordon and he will want them to have the joy of a first Festival G1 winner and she is only 5 years old, six next year.​"
                          I've backed her for the Mares in various multiples but can see the case for her turning into a stayers horse too (have 1pt win at 33s). Gordon usually favours the easier option, which would probably be the stayers if Lossie turned up!
                          Last edited by Faugheen_Machine; 21 March 2025, 08:39 AM.

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                          • A JP big treble for 2026.....
                            Fact To File - Champion Chase
                            Majbourough - RyanAir
                            inothewayurthinkin - Gold Cup

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                            • Originally posted by IstabraqBarRegular View Post
                              A JP big treble for 2026.....
                              Fact To File - Champion Chase
                              Majbourough - RyanAir
                              inothewayurthinkin - Gold Cup
                              Might as well add The New Lion too as there's no doubt around his target. 5669/1 for the 4fold.

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                              • …not Festival but I like a little multiple on the 3 Aintree races over the National fences;

                                Annamix 16-1 Foxhunters (25s with PP)
                                Spanish Harlem 25-1 Topham
                                Senior Chief 50-1 GN

                                Prices are 365, a little e/w Trixie and the treble is over 22,000-1
                                Last edited by Eggs; 21 March 2025, 09:27 AM.

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