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PERTEMPS NETWORK FINAL Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
    Tullybeg wins, lovely feel for the course early in the season and hopefully can do a Galvin and win at the meeting after a nice break.

    Davy to ride with Jack on Dunboyne i hope.

    Same form line that early season race is Born Patriot whom i wouldnt give up on for this race so i hope both run well.
    I like Tullybeg too (along with SdB). His defeat of Bardenstown Lad in September looks good form. I felt he wasn't ridden to win in the Cheltenham qualifier and was asked for more when top 6 looked questionable briefly. I'm not big into tracking breeding but I also see he is by Sholokhov. Maybe a related double of back-to-back Sholokhov sired winners in the Turners and Pertempts?

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    • Originally posted by The Giant Bolster View Post

      I like Tullybeg too (along with SdB). His defeat of Bardenstown Lad in September looks good form. I felt he wasn't ridden to win in the Cheltenham qualifier and was asked for more when top 6 looked questionable briefly. I'm not big into tracking breeding but I also see he is by Sholokhov. Maybe a related double of back-to-back Sholokhov sired winners in the Turners and Pertempts?
      I really like this horse too and he was my first handicap bet of the season. I just liked how they got him out early and had that Cheltenham run then put him away knowing that they had him qualified. Personally think this could be one of Elliot's main plots, especially with it being a Moran horse.

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      • Kevin Blake very sweet on Winter Fog here

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          What am I missing with him?

          He's not 'well in' against anything he qualified against is he? Meaning Panda Boy and Dunboyne mainly....

          And that's his only piece of noteable form whatsoever in his career?.... Even beating Captain Kangaroo isn't notable really for this race, as he's still rated mid 120's?


          It's a genuine question, I feel I must have missed something that's all as 12/1 looks plenty short all things considered?

          I'm willing to be converted. He's in plenty of diaries on here, I just want to know why
          https://twitter.com/attheraces/statu...091979776?s=21
          waiting for you to pop up and say being shrooood isn’t a good enough reason KB

          Is it me or are the cuts off the back of preview nights more severe this year? Some seem drastic thus far.
          Last edited by Outlaw; 4 March 2022, 08:15 AM.

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          • Originally posted by The Giant Bolster View Post

            I like Tullybeg too (along with SdB). His defeat of Bardenstown Lad in September looks good form. I felt he wasn't ridden to win in the Cheltenham qualifier and was asked for more when top 6 looked questionable briefly. I'm not big into tracking breeding but I also see he is by Sholokhov. Maybe a related double of back-to-back Sholokhov sired winners in the Turners and Pertempts?
            I've just added @ 14/1 NRNB. Two very credible runs before an 'experience' run around Cheltenham. Travelled well, never really asked any major questions and been tucked away since. Carried 11-9 that day and with almost a stone less on his back, I think he's a great bet and one thats been laid out by Gordon for Bective Stud. I love these horses that come over for Gordon then get tucked away.

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            • Originally posted by charlie View Post

              I've just added @ 14/1 NRNB. Two very credible runs before an 'experience' run around Cheltenham. Travelled well, never really asked any major questions and been tucked away since. Carried 11-9 that day and with almost a stone less on his back, I think he's a great bet and one thats been laid out by Gordon for Bective Stud. I love these horses that come over for Gordon then get tucked away.
              Agree with this and the previous posts, was one of very very few I broke the non NRNB handicap rule with.

              Almost been forgotten about, he’ll only be carrying 6lbs more than Dunboyne who many see as Gordon’s ‘main plot’ but I’d much rather Tullybeg, better form, course form in a qualifier, won twice this season as well prior to the qualifier.

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              • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                Agree with this and the previous posts, was one of very very few I broke the non NRNB handicap rule with.

                Almost been forgotten about, he’ll only be carrying 6lbs more than Dunboyne who many see as Gordon’s ‘main plot’ but I’d much rather Tullybeg, better form, course form in a qualifier, won twice this season as well prior to the qualifier.
                Just remember the October qualifier is run on the Old course, why they do that I’m not sure, but the New course demands a much stiffer test.
                That’s not to say any horse won’t act on it…

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                • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post

                  https://twitter.com/attheraces/statu...091979776?s=21
                  waiting for you to pop up and say being shrooood isn’t a good enough reason KB

                  Is it me or are the cuts off the back of preview nights more severe this year? Some seem drastic thus far.
                  Haha, I haven't had chance to watch it yet.

                  Will be interested to see the case..... or is it literally just the connections that he's saying?



                  Gotta be better than that.

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                    Haha, I haven't had chance to watch it yet.

                    Will be interested to see the case..... or is it literally just the connections that he's saying?



                    Gotta be better than that.
                    Bit of that & a bit of reasoning, KB could say this is my nap about any horse with no reasoning and it would get trimmed. He’s basically like a movie franchise in the tipping world,he’s had success so whatever follows gets attention & deemed popular.

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                    • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post

                      Bit of that & a bit of reasoning, KB could say this is my nap about any horse with no reasoning and it would get trimmed. He’s basically like a movie franchise in the tipping world,he’s had success so whatever follows gets attention & deemed popular.
                      Yeah that's understandable, I'm not knocking KB at all. He'd be right at the top of the tree understandably.

                      Just want someone to make a case that isn't based on The Shunter

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                      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                        Yeah that's understandable, I'm not knocking KB at all. He'd be right at the top of the tree understandably.

                        Just want someone to make a case that isn't based on The Shunter
                        I gave you my 2pence, my eyes … haven’t scorned my reply yet

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                        • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post

                          I gave you my 2pence, my eyes … haven’t scorned my reply yet
                          Haha I must have missed it! Apologies, hold on:


                          Not necessarily a case of well in against anything he’s qualified against when he’s so lightly raced. He traveled through that race beautifully and looked much, much better than a moderate 120s horse imo. Meh form in four spins(who knows when anything is trying over there) for previous trainer before switching to Emmet and guaranteeing a spot come March by finishing nearer first than 6th at Xmas & ensuring sufficient rises.

                          He could of been given a 3/4 lbs over 7 but it’s gotten him in comfortably and like most will be sub 11st with SDB rocking up off his rating, if you think something is much better than it’s mark 3lbs ain’t putting you off. We all know it’s not necessarily a race which previous form is the barometer for a punt, tends to be something you can’t quite Gauge, Irish and trying to solve the bits in between through eyes & opinions.

                          No reason price shouldn’t hold right through to decs tbf, SDB the class angle. Kealy be name checking Alaphillipe everywhere he goes & couple of Irish be spoken up by Blake on route.
                          ....and I'll need to re-watch myself a few times before I can commit...

                          I wonder how many other horses would match the profile above but be much bigger prices?

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                            Haha I must have missed it! Apologies, hold on:




                            ....and I'll need to re-watch myself a few times before I can commit...

                            I wonder how many other horses would match the profile above but be much bigger prices?
                            Are you going to commit at 9/4 ?

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                            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                              Are you going to commit at 9/4 ?
                              I actually meant comment

                              By the end of this weekend I'll be pretty settled on my Pertemps team.

                              Odds on that he's not in it at the moment, I think I'll like 4 more than him.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                I actually meant comment

                                By the end of this weekend I'll be pretty settled on my Pertemps team.

                                Odds on that he's not in it at the moment, I think I'll like 4 more than him.
                                I guarantee you back him in some form and at some point for this festival.

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