PERTEMPS NETWORK FINAL Handicap Hurdle

[Benjy23]

Good info. Based on that it looks like you'll need a much higher rating to get in than I believe has recently been the case.

[Jrow]

Dunboyne 49 on that list I think

[ToniC]

Dunboyne 49 on that list I think

Think he got 134 Gb mark didnt he? Would be low 30s, you’d hope he’d get in off that as not all Will even get preliminary entries.

[Kevloaf]

Dunboyne 49 on that list I think

Way, way, way too early to worry about that.... (plus you'd get your money back anyway)

At 49, without even looking at the list, I'd say he's in though.

[Saxon Warrior]

Think he got 134 Gb mark didnt he? Would be low 30s, you’d hope he’d get in off that as not all Will even get preliminary entries.

Yes, he got a GB mark of 134 before his last IRE run.

[Zipiter]

Way, way, way too early to worry about that.... (plus you'd get your money back anyway)

At 49, without even looking at the list, I'd say he's in though.

Excuse my ignorance on this but how do you get money back if it's antepost and not NRNB?

[Istabraq]

Excuse my ignorance on this but how do you get money back if it's antepost and not NRNB?

If he gets balloted out (is entered but isn’t rated high enough to get in) bookies must refund…

[Jrow]

Excuse my ignorance on this but how do you get money back if it's antepost and not NRNB?

If a horse is balloted out, then you get your money back ante post or not

**oops someone beat me too it

[Chris]

If a horse is balloted out, then you get your money back ante post or not

**oops someone beat me too it

I have to be the bearer of bad news but antepost rules clearly state all in run or not so if the horse doesn't run bye bye monies.

[Istabraq]

I have to be the bearer of bad news but antepost rules clearly state all in run or not so if the horse doesn't run bye bye monies.

That’s not true Chris, standard AP rules refund balloted out horses…

[Saxon Warrior]

That’s not true Chris, standard AP rules refund balloted out horses…

Yes, that true Ista.

Any time Ive backed a horse in an Early Entry Handicap that gets balloted out, I get my money back.
If you dont then you need to go onto Live Chat and make sure they comply.

[Benjy23]

Aye, the balloted out horses get refunded and have for as long as I've been betting. Market rules state as much on Betfair for example. Check your bookies but that's very much standard practice.

My concern is two that I've backed are chasers, so if there's no chance they'll get in here they may not actually be entered and enter a handicap chase instead.

[Chris]

That’s not true Chris, standard AP rules refund balloted out horses…

Are you sure? my understanding is if you back a horse after declarations and your horse is balloted out then and only then you get your money back, prior to that its treated as antepost and you lose your money

[Istabraq]

This is taken from William Hills but all bookies must operate to the same standard:



i. An antepost bet will be made void under the following circumstances:

• The race is cancelled and isn't run.
• A horse is balloted out under the rules of racing.
• The race is run at an alternative venue to the one originally scheduled.
• Entries for the race are re-opened.

ii. An antepost bet will stand under the following circumstances:

• The race is run on a different date from the one originally specified, but at the original venue.
• The entries for the race are not re-opened. If entries revert back to a previous declaration stage, this won’t count as entries being re-opened and all bets will stand.

[Chris]

This is taken from William Hills but all bookies must operate to the same standard:



i. An antepost bet will be made void under the following circumstances:

• The race is cancelled and isn't run.
• A horse is balloted out under the rules of racing.
• The race is run at an alternative venue to the one originally scheduled.
• Entries for the race are re-opened.

ii. An antepost bet will stand under the following circumstances:

• The race is run on a different date from the one originally specified, but at the original venue.
• The entries for the race are not re-opened. If entries revert back to a previous declaration stage, this won’t count as entries being re-opened and all bets will stand.

The last line clearly states declaration stage but not antepost so you will find that all bookies will not refund and the bet's a looser.