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PERTEMPS NETWORK FINAL Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

    Is that his UK rating? Racing Post says 157
    It’s a handicap tomorrow and he’s 158 on ATR and RP

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    • it’ll be abandoned for frost anyway

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      • Anyone like Alaphilippe for this? Lack of a run since the Bartlett is a concern but I'd him earmarked for the Stayers since that run. I think it'd be too sharp to send a second season hurdler into the stayers after just one run so surely this is the aim?

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          It’s a handicap tomorrow and he’s 158 on ATR and RP
          Mind boggling piece of handicapping when the BHA are looking at all options available to ensure UK horses are more competitive come March…

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          • in my head this race tomorrow finishes like the jonbon last race started. After you....nooo after you!

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            • I mean, on the face of it you would make SDB a proper bet tomorrow, effectively dropped 3lb for finishing runner up in the Stayers Hurdle, but we know he’ll finish 5th about 20l behind the winner…

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                And I thought same 2 years back
                and lost out on shitloads when he nutted storyteller
                SDB qualified in the Warwick race that year.

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                • Originally posted by fatherjohn View Post
                  in my head this race tomorrow finishes like the jonbon last race started. After you....nooo after you!
                  I imagine something is going to get backed very heavily as most of the field won't be trying

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                  • What if the plan is the Stayers Hurdle again for SDB, and he'll be trying tomorrow, especially so that another JP horse doesn't win the race, but he then can go to the Pertemps, instead?

                    I've talked myself into backing SDB at 12/1 tomorrow

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                    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                      What if the plan is the Stayers Hurdle again for SDB, and he'll be trying tomorrow, especially so that another JP horse doesn't win the race, but he then can go to the Pertemps, instead?

                      I've talked myself into backing SDB at 12/1 tomorrow
                      We'll know if that's the case before the off. it would be a fantastic double bluff to win an easy race, get on the best horse at good prices and then disappear back to grade1

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                      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                        I imagine something is going to get backed very heavily as most of the field won't be trying
                        Riggs is the only one who needs to win to get a run in the final so I know where my money is going. Probably too simplistic a view but also makes sense!

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                        • Originally posted by Odin View Post

                          Riggs is the only one who needs to win to get a run in the final so I know where my money is going. Probably too simplistic a view but also makes sense!
                          This was my simple view also. But I'm not sure he does need to win does he? He's high enough already to have got in last year's fairly comfortably. 126 rated horses got in.

                          131 the year before that (2020) and 134 lowest rated in 2019

                          ​​​​​He's on 132 at the moment so could be tight but there's a suggestion (from that tiny sample) that the required rating is actually going down. Assume this year's qualifiers / likely runners this year show something different?

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                          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                            This was my simple view also. But I'm not sure he does need to win does he? He's high enough already to have got in last year's fairly comfortably. 126 rated horses got in.

                            131 the year before that (2020) and 134 lowest rated in 2019

                            ​​​​​He's on 132 at the moment so could be tight but there's a suggestion (from that tiny sample) that the required rating is actually going down. Assume this year's qualifiers / likely runners this year show something different?
                            Take out last year when all marks were lower probably because of COVID and I have him as borderline. I had the average over 5/6 years as about 134/135 which could be wrong but feels right to be sure - handicapper can't rate this race too highly anyway right given only one or two of them will actually be trying to win?!

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                            • Originally posted by Odin View Post

                              Riggs is the only one who needs to win to get a run in the final so I know where my money is going. Probably too simplistic a view but also makes sense!
                              Is there merit in a double on Riggs today and SDB in the final?

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                              • Originally posted by Shergar View Post

                                Is there merit in a double on Riggs today and SDB in the final?
                                Could be - Riggs the one for money as well I think. I'm hoping sire gets lengthened for not winning today, then I'll back him but who knows - I've already backed 3 and cashed one of them so gotta be careful!​​​​​​

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