PERTEMPS NETWORK FINAL Handicap Hurdle

[Eggs]

Oddly he's appeared in the NHC market !!!

….noticed Dunboyne support for NHC in Dandrew99 summary yesterday. Thought it very idd.

[nortonscoin200]

Should hopefully mean MrFred Rogers will be Pipe bound with Chemical, there’s a few more qualms to do,e but maybe Gordon is happy with the 5 or 6 he already has qualified for the race.

I just wonder if Mr Fred Rogers will finish up in the Coral Cup.

Gordon put excellent 5lbs claimer Shane Fitzgerald up on him last time. Fitzgerald also rode Chemical Energy lto.

It's entirely possible they could both target the Pipe with Jordan Gainford on one and Shane on the other.

But it does strike me that Gordon may have been giving Shane the leg up on two horses he'll be riding at Cheltenham.

Fred on 138 less a 5lb claim would be interesting if his jumping holds up.

If I'm right it begs the question: who will Jordan be riding in the Pipe - because his mount will surely be Gordon's number one dart.

[DenmanSacre]

I just wonder if Mr Fred Rogers will finish up in the Coral Cup.

Gordon put excellent 5lbs claimer Shane Fitzgerald up on him last time. Fitzgerald also rode Chemical Energy lto.

It's entirely possible they could both target the Pipe with Jordan Gainford on one and Shane on the other.

But it does strike me that Gordon may have been giving Shane the leg up on two horses he'll be riding at Cheltenham.

Fred on 138 less a 5lb claim would be interesting if his jumping holds up.

If I'm right it begs the question: who will Jordan be riding in the Pipe - because his mount will surely be Gordon's number one dart.

It would be odd for Elliott to put a novice in this race as it isn't something he does. The more stamina laden new course would be up his alley as well.

Lets see if he turns up to the Musselburgh qualifier then it will either be the Martin Pipe or they have aimed him at the William Fry hurdle at the DRF

[darlojim]

So do we think thats Mr Fred Rogers not coming here now then? Seems strange that they wont have got him qualified in this with how little are actually in the race

[Lobos]

So do we think thats Mr Fred Rogers not coming here now then? Seems strange that they wont have got him qualified in this with how little are actually in the race

Think you've probably answered your own question in that sentence.

[Quevega]

Think you've probably answered your own question in that sentence.

Not that easy to qualify "easy" in a race with so little runners, if you know what I mean.

Be an interesting watch.
Only Riggs interests me seriously for the Final, but I've just spent an hour on him and decided against it.
Might back him Saturday though.

[nortonscoin200]

It would be odd for Elliott to put a novice in this race as it isn't something he does. The more stamina laden new course would be up his alley as well.

Lets see if he turns up to the Musselburgh qualifier then it will either be the Martin Pipe or they have aimed him at the William Fry hurdle at the DRF

Cheers DS - you're absolutely right......I'm on!!

[spotthediff]

So do we think thats Mr Fred Rogers not coming here now then? Seems strange that they wont have got him qualified in this with how little are actually in the race

Personally I would say no, although he may end up if a different qualifier. I think Gordon throws a few red herrings out there when he does this mass entry thing before Cheltenham.

You're right about the number of horses in the race though, makes it very easy to qualify for the Pertemps. Not sure that makes it interesting or put a line through!

[FinalFurlong91]

Dunboyne slashed from 16s into a general 10s now

[RufusFlynn]

Could the master plan all along be for Sire du Berlais to come back and win this under top weight for a third victory in the race?

Was just thinking about the horse this morning as he falls into the bracket of horses that don't always give their running over Christmas or get beaten in the depths of winter only to come good at Cheltenham, but with all Gordon's other qualified horses for this I didn't think this would be his first target. He does seem to love the place.

Last year was probably his year if he was going to win the stayers, but think he could still be good enough for this.

[FinalFurlong91]

Him running off 158 would give dunboyne a nice low weight on his back

[Odin]

Him running off 158 would give dunboyne a nice low weight on his back

I was just coming here to ask if we thought JP had a plot that needed Sire to run - I'd be surprised if Sire ran for Dunboynes benefit given they have different owners?

[FinalFurlong91]

I was just coming here to ask if we thought JP had a plot that needed Sire to run - I'd be surprised if Sire ran for Dunboynes benefit given they have different owners?

It was more of a statement suggesting it would benefit dunboyne if SDB ran not saying that SDB is running for dunboynes benefit

[thorne365]

I think there's a bit of smokescreening going on Thorne. Some of his qualified horses I'd be sure go to other races. His MO with win and place horses for the Pertemps is remarkably similar each year, so by understanding the past you can fairly closely predict which ones will be targeted here I think.

Similarly his MO for the Coral Cup, the Pipe, and horses that don't go to the Festival at all is similar each season. It's not completely foolproof of course, but you'd be right barring the odd exception.

ya - antepost season all that makes sense, my point/opinion was more regarding the stage where decs are more or less known and he has decisions to make in order to let others in.

As ye say GE probably has all that mapped out in advance though - it seems to be one of his biggest attributes tbf

[doctorwu]

Not surprisingly only SDB left in of the Elliott clan. The games afoot.