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2021 Champion Chase - have bookies got this wrong ?

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  • #31
    2017 - 3m 55s won by Special Tiara but no Politilogue
    2018 - 4m 7s (Politilogue 4th)
    2019 - 3m 58s (Politilogue 2nd)
    2020 - 4m 12s (Politilogue 1st)

    I think Politilogue needs more respect than what he’s getting. This years time was slow but he’s got a very good record at the Festival and at 20/1 currently is a very good e/w bet given the uncertainty of the top 3 in the betting.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by The King Pimm View Post
      2017 - 3m 55s won by Special Tiara but no Politilogue
      2018 - 4m 7s (Politilogue 4th)
      2019 - 3m 58s (Politilogue 2nd)
      2020 - 4m 12s (Politilogue 1st)

      I think Politilogue needs more respect than what he’s getting. This years time was slow but he’s got a very good record at the Festival and at 20/1 currently is a very good e/w bet given the uncertainty of the top 3 in the betting.
      On 2020s times , Fakir and PTKO would have won by lengths .. the the arkle was 4:08 from memory. Plus prolitlogue has it easy out front like PTKO so the times can be compared IMO

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The King Pimm View Post
        2017 - 3m 55s won by Special Tiara but no Politilogue
        2018 - 4m 7s (Politilogue 4th)
        2019 - 3m 58s (Politilogue 2nd)
        2020 - 4m 12s (Politilogue 1st)

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        As I only bet for the win and not e/w, I think this tells me that Politilogue will only be winning it again if the horses above him in the betting, don't make it on the day.

        I appreciate from an e/w perspective he might be considered a bet as you say he has a great festival record.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by The King Pimm View Post
          2017 - 3m 55s won by Special Tiara but no Politilogue
          2018 - 4m 7s (Politilogue 4th)
          2019 - 3m 58s (Politilogue 2nd)
          2020 - 4m 12s (Politilogue 1st)

          I think Politilogue needs more respect than what he’s getting. This years time was slow but he’s got a very good record at the Festival and at 20/1 currently is a very good e/w bet given the uncertainty of the top 3 in the betting.
          Given the ground was at the worst on a par(in reality slightly better given going stick readings thou could argue was tacky) than day 1, in comparison to the Arkle the time as you mention reads poorly and makes how Politilogue won interesting in a Tactical affair given how Defi beat him in the Shloer. If you do a split screen of the two races from jumping the first,by reaching the 5th on the far side the CC are roughly 3 seconds(12l) behind all the way until 3 out where Politilogue makes up the majority of the difference and quickens the tempo,he swiftly proceeds to be then match the Arkle before finishing slower from the last. Bold tactic to try given that scenario would of suited a 100% Defi given he loves to sit then pounce late with a turn of foot.
          The Arkle was much truer run most can agree on that front, given i don't rate this years Arkle particular it makes my view of the CC equally disappointing not that many needed a clock to come to that opinion.
          Last edited by Outlaw; 3 May 2020, 10:31 AM.

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