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Supreme/Ballymore/Albert Bartlett - Novice Hurdles 2021

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  • The pink and green have started to show a little more in recent weeks so Hopefully we'll see a Fly Smart entry at some point.

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    • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
      Long shot for Willie worth looking at is Shewears

      On RPR ratings, she is the best horse at moment, Mares allowance for top horses showing in lots races now to be key ......and Willie has loads options for Mares Novice

      Original plan was Royal Bond and setback was minor we believe
      Would you be looking for her to have more experience being a mare than you would expect a gelding to have if she did go down this route?

      I see she holds an entry for the future champions novice hurdle over Christmas

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      • Cashed FERNY OUT M! Absolutely gutted would of won the supreme

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        • Originally posted by hardheld View Post
          Cashed FERNY OUT M! Absolutely gutted would of won the supreme
          Do we know he’s even injured??

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          • Originally posted by hardheld View Post
            Cashed FERNY OUT M! Absolutely gutted would of won the supreme
            very very early days to be calling the supreme winner.

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            • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

              very very early days to be calling the supreme winner.
              He did win a 2-furlong sprint though.
              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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              • Appreciate It shortening a tonne this week in the Ballymore is surely adding a little fuel to the rumour fire too.

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                • Originally posted by Altior View Post
                  Appreciate It shortening a tonne this week in the Ballymore is surely adding a little fuel to the rumour fire too.
                  That’s probably the move that is being overlooked, in this Ferny Hollow topic.
                  "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                  • Originally posted by Altior View Post
                    Appreciate It shortening a tonne this week in the Ballymore is surely adding a little fuel to the rumour fire too.
                    True , not really getting it though as Ferny would have thought was Supreme bound while Appreciate It Ballymore. Not like it’s making a target clearer or anything
                    Why would ferny injury influence Appreciate Its price?

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                    • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                      very very early days to be calling the supreme winner.
                      For all we know Bob ollinger could be bang average so yes very early days

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                      • Originally posted by Crolwey113 View Post

                        True , not really getting it though as Ferny would have thought was Supreme bound while Appreciate It Ballymore. Not like it’s making a target clearer or anything
                        Why would ferny injury influence Appreciate Its price?
                        I'm biased as I always felt Ferny would/will end up Ballymore bound fair point though. I'm just trying to piece together why Appreciate It steamed in so much this week for no real reason or news whatsoever.

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                        • Originally posted by Altior View Post

                          I'm biased as I always felt Ferny would/will end up Ballymore bound fair point though. I'm just trying to piece together why Appreciate It steamed in so much this week for no real reason or news whatsoever.
                          It’ll be yard money. In the last week there has been one or two big moves on horses from the Mullins yard without any press or connection comments.

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                          • Originally posted by AnFiieLD. View Post
                            It’ll be yard money. In the last week there has been one or two big moves on horses from the Mullins yard without any press or connection comments.
                            I agree with this. Usually these moves with certain bookmakers are telling.

                            I’m not bailing on my Ferny Hollow ante post bet. I could be wrong, but I have a suspicion that the source of this may be benefitting from any exchange drifts on adverse rumours of high profile setbacks.

                            I would understand if others cash out if they have a big position and want to take out the risk though. Mine is pretty much just having him in my Supreme book, and if he goes down I can cover him, so it’s easier for me not to overreact.
                            Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                            • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

                              I agree with this. Usually these moves with certain bookmakers are telling.

                              I’m not bailing on my Ferny Hollow ante post bet. I could be wrong, but I have a suspicion that the source of this may be benefitting from any exchange drifts on adverse rumours of high profile setbacks.

                              I would understand if others cash out if they have a big position and want to take out the risk though. Mine is pretty much just having him in my Supreme book, and if he goes down I can cover him, so it’s easier for me not to overreact.
                              Is Declan Phelan the only source people have seen, or has anyone seen anything more?

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                              • Originally posted by Crolwey113 View Post

                                Is Declan Phelan the only source people have seen, or has anyone seen anything more?
                                Is that the same guy who was fined/banned for laying his own horse to lose ??

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