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Supreme/Ballymore/Albert Bartlett - Novice Hurdles 2021

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  • Interesting that PP are the biggest price for Appreciate It in the Supreme, Ballymore and Albert Bartlett.

    Thought they usually played a cautious game on the Mullins/Elliott stars.

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
      We don't know more than trainers kev..............even if we sometimes think we do.
      I’ve done some race planning for a trainer in the past and I can tell you that’s not true. Trainers can be very insular in their approach and very one dimensional.

      I’d say irrespective of what you hear from a trainer, back your own judgement, and follow what they say and learn what happens afterwards if you want to read between the lines.
      Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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      • Very happy with the Flinteur Sacre result today. As I said, all hype and for so many reasons the perfect back to lay horse.

        In the spirit of balance he’ll end up being a much better horse than we saw today, but it’ll probably take a season or two and fences for him to start showing his potential.
        Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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        • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

          I’ve done some race planning for a trainer in the past and I can tell you that’s not true. Trainers can be very insular in their approach and very one dimensional.

          I’d say irrespective of what you hear from a trainer, back your own judgement, and follow what they say and learn what happens afterwards if you want to read between the lines.
          I hope it wasn't Mr Tizzard as some of his over these last few years have been questionable

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          • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

            I’ve done some race planning for a trainer in the past and I can tell you that’s not true. Trainers can be very insular in their approach and very one dimensional.

            I’d say irrespective of what you hear from a trainer, back your own judgement, and follow what they say and learn what happens afterwards if you want to read between the lines.
            I'm not having that Spectre. They know far more about training Horses than all of us on here put together. Don't kid yourself.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              I'm not having that Spectre. They know far more about training Horses than all of us on here put together. Don't kid yourself.
              Training them yes, but that's only one part of the job Lobos. And I'm far from kidding myself.
              Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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              • Originally posted by Spectre View Post

                Training them yes, but that's only one part of the job Lobos. And I'm far from kidding myself.
                They treat them like their own and know them inside out. Of course they are going to get it wrong plenty of times on how they think they'll perform at the track , especially with Novices, but without their input we as punters wouldn't have a clue where to start the majority of time.

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                • I could give you multiple examples of horses running in the wrong races this weekend Lobos. Trainers too often look for the next opportunity rather than the best opportunity, and plenty have no idea how to manage a mark or a career. Sometimes that includes big name trainers.

                  I'll give you just one example of that this weekend. Cask Mate will run in the Royal Bond at the weekend. He's second favourite and will run like a second favourite. He currently has a mark that with UK handicapper tax would probably have him going close in the Coral Cup or the Martin Pipe, but irrespective of his race tomorrow, long before that Noel Meade will blow his mark in another egg and spoon novice hurdle, and the horse will end up in no mans land. Because of time off he's 7 rising 8 next Festival and he'll have nowhere to go.

                  I hope I'm proven wrong, but I won't be.
                  Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                  • Keskonrisk needs to turn my ante post fortunes around today after a couple of average weekends of late.

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                    • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                      Keskonrisk needs to turn my ante post fortunes around today after a couple of average weekends of late.
                      Let's hope so JM

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        Let's hope so JM
                        Gordon’s Indigo Breeze has usurped him as favourite now and GDS done the same to Hook Up as well. Plenty of money for the Elliott yard.

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                        • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                          Gordon’s Indigo Breeze has usurped him as favourite now and GDS done the same to Hook Up as well. Plenty of money for the Elliott yard.
                          Racing Post prices must have been screwy as it didn’t seem Hook Up went second fav.

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                          • Keskonrisk another winner to go in today having been a big AP price for his potential festival target. Quickened really nicely, and can probably mark it up a bit after being a bit short of room at a point & on the back of a layoff

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                            • Originally posted by ToniC View Post
                              Keskonrisk another winner to go in today having been a big AP price for his potential festival target. Quickened really nicely, and can probably mark it up a bit after being a bit short of room at a point & on the back of a layoff
                              Very impressed there - did well to win from that position and looked to still have plenty left.

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                              • Lovely turn of foot from Keskonrisk to reel in a race fit Indigo Breeze after he'd gone 5 lengths clear, he settled & jumed nicely, very promising run with a view to the Supreme. Kudos to Jackie for pointing him out in here early doors! 50/1 looks big based on todays run.

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