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Supreme/Ballymore/Albert Bartlett - Novice Hurdles 2021

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  • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
    No but i've seen one or two mention another horse that beat Ferny, Eric Bloodaxe- could be another semi interesting one..
    Yeah he's one I am interested in, for similar reasons.

    A bit simplistic perhaps but you have to start somewhere

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
      Forged In Fire that beat Ferny Hollow in a bumper.

      Patrick Mullins just mentioned him as a bit under the radar perhaps.

      Anyone backed him / mentioned him / thought about him?



      I bet I end up backing him in a handicap clinging on to that one run.
      Yep, he's in my potential for the Ballymore list.

      Also backed for that race with free bets. Breeding suggests more stamina laden than anything so couldn't have him as a Supreme horse myself.

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      • Ive not had anything really for the ballymore or the albert bartlett..im keen to add bob olinger as i havent got him covered at all and obviously appreciate it, they could likey end up in the same race so im goin to play these both ways and in singles

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        • Small amount of money for Bob Olinger for the Bartlett on the exchanges and also PP/Betfair cut him in line with this (I assume).

          Personally think it would be an utter waste should he end up there, and his overall profile doesn't represent a horse that needs an absolute slog out in something like the Bartlett, at this stage of his career, so I'm hoping it's just cautious punters backing him for the three novice hurdle races as cover. Being that it's on the exchanges there would obviously be the possibility to trade out of him should he live up to expectations.

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          • Seen that myself, wondering if De Bromhead has a stable tour on the way that people have seen etc.
            Last edited by OverTheLast; 7 October 2020, 12:22 PM.

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            • Originally posted by OverTheLast View Post
              Seen that myself, wondering if De Bromhead has a stable tour on the way that people etc.
              Quick.....get your money on Honey for the Churdle.

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              • Taken the 50/1 TWAR on Everglow. 1pt . If he wins/runs close tomorrow, that price will collapse. Far too big to ignore.

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                • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
                  No but i've seen one or two mention another horse that beat Ferny, Eric Bloodaxe- could be another semi interesting one..
                  JOB - He was an exciting horse in bumpers last season, but unfortunately he picked up a little injury when disappointing in his last run that ended up keeping him off the track for the rest of the season. He’ll go novice hurdling this season and you’d have to be excited about him. We’ll start him off at two miles and play it by ear from there.

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                  • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                    JOB - He was an exciting horse in bumpers last season, but unfortunately he picked up a little injury when disappointing in his last run that ended up keeping him off the track for the rest of the season. He’ll go novice hurdling this season and you’d have to be excited about him. We’ll start him off at two miles and play it by ear from there.
                    ...the 470-1 (with Hills boost) Eric Bloodaxe any race double with Fury Road looking slightly more positive.
                    Last edited by Eggs; 9 October 2020, 08:12 AM.

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                    • Regarding Fire Attack, JOB said this "He was a good bumper horse last season and we are looking forward to seeing him over hurdles this season. He likes soft ground, but he isn’t slow, and I don’t think we’ll be going further than two miles with him for a while."

                      I'm glad I see (and read the breeding) what JOB does with regards to this ones distance. He'll get some cut in the Supreme, as it will typically be watered regardless, and that's without the weather doing whatever it decides to do nearer the time.

                      Still a 50/1 poke for the Supreme, or 40/1 with cash out. I think he'll be Gigginstowns main Supreme hope.


                      And for Forged In Fire, "He won his only start in a bumper last season and the form has obviously worked out very well. You’d have to be excited about him based on that. He’ll go straight over hurdles and he looks as though he’ll stay well."

                      As noted when Kev brought him up, his breeding suggests a trip further than the Supreme, and it surprised me he was shorter for the Supreme than the Ballymore. I still think he'll be Ballymore bound myself, if good enough of course.


                      And Uhtred, "He looked an exciting horse in bumpers last season and will go back over hurdles this season. We’ll start him off at two miles and feel our way with him from there. He’s one we are looking forward to."

                      The one that has caused most debate I feel. The fact he's used the words 'feel our way with him from there' suggests they probably don't know as of yet. Still be one that goes up in trip for me, once beat over 2m.


                      Eric Bloodaxe, "He was an exciting horse in bumpers last season, but unfortunately he picked up a little injury when disappointing in his last run that ended up keeping him off the track for the rest of the season. He’ll go novice hurdling this season and you’d have to be excited about him. We’ll start him off at two miles and play it by ear from there."

                      Again, a bit like Uhtred, 'play it by ear from there' suggests they don't actually know where he'll fit in, again, I think he'll be going further during the season.

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                        Taken the 50/1 TWAR on Everglow. 1pt . If he wins/runs close tomorrow, that price will collapse. Far too big to ignore.
                        Why's that?

                        Phillip Hobbs

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                        • So basically they’re all exciting and he’s looking forward to them

                          Fire Attack has good form with Farouk D’alene and Farouk is my pick of all the Giggy bumper horses. Fire Attack should go well still but neither looked like a two miler to my eyes.

                          Forged In Fire was pushed along a long way out to beat Ferny who probably gifted him that race. He’ll need further than 2 miles and Presenting progeny do not win Supremes.

                          Uhtred I won’t go over again.

                          Eric Bloodaxe would be my second pick of Joseph’s after Uhtred but I prefer others in the races he’s likely to go for.
                          Last edited by JackieMoon33; 9 October 2020, 08:29 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                            So basically they’re all exciting and he’s looking forward to them
                            Yeah

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                            • Good stuff, Think you have interpreted it the same as me COD. Fire attack and Forged in fire added yesterday once i read that. Keeping tabs on the others for time being.

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                              • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
                                So basically they’re all exciting and he’s looking forward to them
                                The starting them over 2 miles and then play it by ear, then maybe slightly rephrased a few was annoying haha

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