Supreme/Ballymore/Albert Bartlett - Novice Hurdles 2021

[Faugheen_Machine]

Yeah, I got that requested some time back.

Good man, CoD. I'm fairly sure I've already backed him although it's not in my diary, I'll have to check.

[ComplyOrDie]

Another for the 'could be anything' Gigginstown category is Grangeclare Native, who now has an entry the same day as Quilixios.

Definitely will need a trip, again anywhere from 2m 4f (where he starts out on Saturday) to 3m.

Probably one for the any race category.

33/1 any race up now, as well as 66/1 for the Bartlett.

[BigChaang]

33/1 any race up now, as well as 66/1 for the Bartlett.

Suffered from a bit of FOMO today .
Had a nibble at Grangeclare Native @ 33-1 T.W.A.R Hill's.
I blame you and faugheen !.

[Kevloaf]

33/1 any race up now, as well as 66/1 for the Bartlett.

Brave without cashout?

Another for the 'could be anything' Gigginstown category is Grangeclare Native, who now has an entry the same day as Quilixios.

Definitely will need a trip, again anywhere from 2m 4f (where he starts out on Saturday) to 3m.

Probably one for the any race category.

Such a liberal use of 'could be anything' too

Win a bumper, thrashed next time in a grade 2, doesn't mean he could be anything.... he can't be Frankel


He was bought to be a chaser having just found a quote.

After race at Punchestown Sun, 8th Dec, 2019 (1st) He’s a big baby and a horse for next year, . Two miles is probably as short as he wants and he was bought to be a chaser. Gordon Elliott

Good man, CoD. I'm fairly sure I've already backed him although it's not in my diary, I'll have to check.

What am I missing chaps?



I feel like there are plenty of horses that could fit in the category, end up in Martin Pipe's etc, but without cashout I'd be too scared to back every one of them?

[Faugheen_Machine]

Won his bumper then ran in a grade 2 on his hurdling debut, which is unusual. Although well beaten, he wasn't disgraced and he needs much further than 2 mile to be seen at his best, imo.

Not sure how often Gordon would but a horse straight into a grade 2. I think GE likes him and at a wild price for the AB, I could resist a small bet.

[Kevloaf]

Won his bumper then ran in a grade 2 on his hurdling debut, which is unusual. Although well beaten, he wasn't disgraced and he needs much further than 2 mile to be seen at his best, imo.

Not sure how often Gordon would but a horse straight into a grade 2. I think GE likes him and at a wild price for the AB, I could resist a small bet.

Fair enough. I think that when he puts a horse in a good race and they run well but don't get near winning, he's building up their experience and they're the kind that 'pop up#' with loads of improvement in handicaps at big meetings.

Not knocking a 66/1 bet of course, more likely to be a handicapper imo - maybe I'll hover over the price during the race.

[Quevega]

Fair enough. I think that when he puts a horse in a good race and they run well but don't get near winning, he's building up their experience and they're the kind that 'pop up#' with loads of improvement in handicaps at big meetings.

Not knocking a 66/1 bet of course, more likely to be a handicapper imo - maybe I'll hover over the price during the race.

The race today is dog shit though.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Fair enough. I think that when he puts a horse in a good race and they run well but don't get near winning, he's building up their experience and they're the kind that 'pop up#' with loads of improvement in handicaps at big meetings.

Not knocking a 66/1 bet of course, more likely to be a handicapper imo - maybe I'll hover over the price during the race.

Your probably right Kev. I'll see how he goes today but he needs to be putting that field away comfortably if GE has graded races in mind this season

[Kevloaf]

The race today is dog shit though.

Yeah he'll need to win the rubbish races along the way, and then get beaten in another graded race.


It's not like I'm putting him up as the Martin Pipe horse, I'm just saying that's the pattern I like to look for.


I hadn't even heard of this horse until last night (that I could recall anyway, must have seen him as I've watched the races he ran in) and people have backed him - so I just didn't want to have missed anything obvious.

I don't think I have, but at least he's now on the radar

[JackieMoon33]

Below are the Gigginstown bumper horses I shortlisted to keep an eye on for various potential targets. I think Joseph may have got the better batch this year although there is a mix of Stores and Pointers in there. Wide Receiver is one who has not been talked up much due to recency bias but he should come good over obstacles as he was never made for bumpers.

Eric Bloodaxe - 131
Forged In Fire - 129
Farouk D’alene - 126
Fire Attack - 126
Uhtred - 122
Wide Receiver - 120
Favori De Champdou - 118
Fantasio D’alene - 115
One Down - 114

[ComplyOrDie]

Below are the Gigginstown bumper horses I shortlisted to keep an eye on for various potential targets. I think Joseph may have got the batter batch this year although there is a mix of Stores and Pointers in there. Wide Receiver is one who has not been talked up much due to recency bias but he should come good over obstacles as he was never made for bumpers.

Eric Bloodaxe - 131
Forged In Fire - 129
Farouk D’alene - 126
Fire Attack - 126
Uhtred - 122
Wide Receiver - 120
Favori De Champdou - 118
Fantasio D’alene - 115
One Down - 114

The top 5 and Favori De Champdou are the ones that interest me out of them lot

[ComplyOrDie]

What am I missing chaps?



I feel like there are plenty of horses that could fit in the category, end up in Martin Pipe's etc, but without cashout I'd be too scared to back every one of them?

You're probably not missing much Kev

He along with a couple of other Giggs animals were in my notebook as potential Albert Bartlett or Handicap options, so backed the any race option without cash out and the specific race option with cash out for further down the line.

By 'could be anything' I meant in terms of a G1 horse or a handicapper, again, hence the any race bet, probably should have explained that a little better

[SharpHat]

By 'could be anything' I meant in terms of a G1 horse or a handicapper, again, hence the any race bet, probably should have explained that a little better

You really shouldn't, no one actually thought you meant he could be frankel

[Kevloaf]

You really shouldn't, no one actually thought you meant he could be frankel

Most of your posts could be anything.

You're probably not missing much Kev

He along with a couple of other Giggs animals were in my notebook as potential Albert Bartlett or Handicap options, so backed the any race option without cash out and the specific race option with cash out for further down the line.

By 'could be anything' I meant in terms of a G1 horse or a handicapper, again, hence the any race bet, probably should have explained that a little better

I do know what you mean, just feel like the 'could be anything' is too easy to say as a throwaway comment.

It didn't help me see what I could be missing haha.

That result doesn't help though either.

[SharpHat]

Most of your posts could be anything.

Ha hardly, im one of the few on here that actually takes a view on things, none of this 'I dont think it'll win but I'll back it and cash out for 95%' bullshit