Supreme/Ballymore/Albert Bartlett - Novice Hurdles 2021

[Might_Bite]

Having missed out on metier price. I'm thinking... Hills 7 Places

Anyone see him being below 4-5/1 on the day?

[Kevloaf]

Bigfish

Less than one hour ago I asked you quite politely via direct message, not to post one lined posts with no reason or theory behind it... I know you've read that, as you've responded.

Yet here we are, with 3 posts above.


How do you think I should react to that?

Thank me for not being long widenened

If Malone Road returns or Micro Manage improves for his run then Metier is a back number IMO

Perhaps you're right Bigfish ... I wouldn't have wanted to waste my time reading a long-winded version of you backing this up, knowing full well you're on the wind up.

I doubt it'll be long until you're back posting under another guise, which we can't stop... but it won't annoy me anywhere near as much as you hope it will.

[Rooster Booster]

First of all in general I don't think a lot to any of the British novice hurdlers bar Bravemansgame. To answer your question regarding DYJ, I'm pretty certain Cadzand has improved considerably since being beaten at Ayr, horses obviously improve at different rates, so in my opinion and thats all it is, I regard that line of form as dubious. I honestly don't believe that DYJ ran up to his best on Saturday, as Michael Scudamores horses aren't flying at the moment. My point was if AI was mine I'd prefer to go the Supreme route as the opposition looks weaker to me. If Metier wins at Cheltenham, I'll hold my hands up and say I was badly wrong but regardless of price wouldn't be on my mind.

And doesn’t Metier beating Tile Tapper by an additional 15 lengths suggest he is also improving at a significant rate. Perhaps he also did not run his race.I saw a horse that jumped well, travelled well and showed a turn of foot and for the second time running pleased the clock watchers. It appears that the only thing being held against him is that he is a British novice hurdler?

[Outlaw]

Having missed out on metier price. I'm thinking... Hills 7 Places

Anyone see him being below 4-5/1 on the day?

I'll start by saying I do like the horse but if he's 4/1 on the day then it will be up there with the poorest Supremes. I know it's a light year for novice hurdles at 2M but there will be a good 4/5 around the 145 mark come the day and we all know the Mullins horse will be a strongly backed horse as always. Only my opinion of course.

[Istabraq]

Having missed out on metier price. I'm thinking... Hills 7 Places

Anyone see him being below 4-5/1 on the day?

Play that but lay the horse 3 places on betfair, likely to be a shade of odds on, and you get the chance of both copping if he finishes 4th/5th/6th/7th...

[Rooster Booster]

Perhaps you're right Bigfish ... I wouldn't have wanted to waste my time reading a long-winded version of you backing this up, knowing full well you're on the wind up.

I doubt it'll be long until you're back posting under another guise, which we can't stop... but it won't annoy me anywhere near as much as you hope it will.

Of course it was long winded. I was too shy to ask what long widenened meant

[FrenchHolly]

And doesn’t Metier beating Tile Tapper by an additional 15 lengths suggest he is also improving at a significant rate. Perhaps he also did not run his race.I saw a horse that jumped well, travelled well and showed a turn of foot and for the second time running pleased the clock watchers. It appears that the only thing being held against him is that he is a British novice hurdler?

The problem is horses like Tile Tapper, I don't rate them very highly and like I say don't think they are a very good bunch bar BMG. We will see come Cheltenham but really hope AI runs against the mighty Metier in the Supreme.

[Rooster Booster]

Tbh you have history very much on your side. . A Willie Mullins trained favourite or a Harry Fry trained second favourite. I know which the safer viewpoint is, and I suspect yours is a commonly held opinion also. Even Henderson’s Cheltenham pedigree couldn’t prevent a massive on the day drift for Shishkin so Christ knows what will happen to Metier. They are actually both good winners for me but my personal view is AI will need to shake Metier off before the last and as a purist I am just pleased that the race finally seems to be taking a little shape.

[FrenchHolly]

Tbh you have history very much on your side. . A Willie Mullins trained favourite or a Harry Fry trained second favourite. I know which the safer viewpoint is, and I suspect yours is a commonly held opinion also. Even Henderson’s Cheltenham pedigree couldn’t prevent a massive on the day drift for Shishkin so Christ knows what will happen to Metier. They are actually both good winners for me but my personal view is AI will need to shake Metier off before the last and as a purist I am just pleased that the race finally seems to be taking a little shape.

History won't help any horse and no disrespect to Harry Fry but some of his horses seem to me get over hyped. Plus the bookies love it, Metier is the big hope they can offer any price and they will get takers. I'd love to have seen Master McShee in the Tolworth, I'd have been very disappointed if he wasn't at least 2nd and at least 11.5l in front Arry!

[Istabraq]

Has everyone put Ashdale Bob’s beating of Holymacapony as a fluke ?

I’ve had a small play on Stattler (Potato) but just tooka deeper look into the race and it looked to me that AB was being ignored and I can only assume it’s because other in that Navan race appeared to under perform, just watched the replay a couple of times and it looked a serious performance to me.

Has anyone pulled the trigger ?

[ComplyOrDie]

Has everyone put Ashdale Bob’s beating of Holymacapony as a fluke ?

I’ve had a small play on Stattler (Potato) but just tooka deeper look into the race and it looked to me that AB was being ignored and I can only assume it’s because other in that Navan race appeared to under perform, just watched the replay a couple of times and it looked a serious performance to me.

Has anyone pulled the trigger ?

Not a fluke, IMO, backed both AB & Holymacapony

[Istabraq]

Not a fluke, IMO, backed both AB & Holymacapony

What price did you get AB CoD ?

[Cashew King]

Not a fluke, IMO, backed both AB & Holymacapony

Was there anything came to light after Holymacapony pulled up? I missed it if anything came to light?

[ComplyOrDie]

What price did you get AB CoD ?

Only 20's, but was on a site that I managed to get nearly 4pts from a casino bonus, so technically risk free for myself.

I do like him though, really like his profile, closely related to the likes of The Storyteller, Briar Hill (went off fav for 2014 Bartlett), among other staying types. Also a 2nd season novice, where he finished close enough to none other than The Bosses Oscar on his hurdles debut.

[Topofthegame2021]

I can’t remember who put this up, but whoever it was thank you. I did go back to try and find the original post.

Kilcruit going over hurdles.

I remember reading a piece a while ago before his last bumper win which suggested hurdles might be on the agenda. I’ve been thinking about this bet a lot recently. With the bumper horse beating Ginto the other day looking impressive Mullins might just send Kilcruit to the supreme & AI to the Ballymore (wishful thinking).

ive taken the 270 for Kilcruit in the Ballymore & 130/1 for the supreme. Worth a small stake I think.