Supreme/Ballymore/Albert Bartlett - Novice Hurdles 2021

[Kevloaf]

timeform have metier 147p and appreciate it 148p

I know people on here have their own ratings systems but that reinforces the visual impression of a classy horse with a good turn of speed and definitely a supreme contender for me

It's hard for anyone to really argue he's not a contender ....you'd struggle to name 3 horses who have shown enough to say he wouldn't be in the frame.

I don't do my own ratings, they're always after the fact and when one horse beats another the rating changes in hindsight so it's not a tool I'd get too caught up on. If every horse ran to the same level every time with no varience it'd be perfect, but it's not... anyway, for me, Appreciate It would be a class above Metier, he may not have shown it yet, but I'll be disappointed if it's not true.

Then again, disappointed is a bit strong, I'd like Fry to have another cracking novice... Miss you Neon Wolf. I might change my name to Neon Wolf. Could have a much cooler avatar then too.

[Outlaw]

It's hard for anyone to really argue he's not a contender ....you'd struggle to name 3 horses who have shown enough to say he wouldn't be in the frame.

I don't do my own ratings, they're always after the fact and when one horse beats another the rating changes in hindsight so it's not a tool I'd get too caught up on. If every horse ran to the same level every time with no varience it'd be perfect, but it's not... anyway, for me, Appreciate It would be a class above Metier, he may not have shown it yet, but I'll be disappointed if it's not true.

Then again, disappointed is a bit strong, I'd like Fry to have another cracking novice... Miss you Neon Wolf. I might change my name to Neon Wolf. Could have a much cooler avatar then too.

Fry seems to have a promising novice every season since the Neon wolf days, this lad does look very good and hope he stays sound for years to come, although I've been very vocal on the whole what he should be assigned vs what he could be capable of given the division at present you couldn't knock him out the 3 whether that be visuals or on the clock at this moment in time.

P.S there is a great literal NEON WOLF pic, get that avatar swapped i keep thinking you are on a bakeoff thread

[Bigfish]

timeform have metier 147p and appreciate it 148p

I know people on here have their own ratings systems but that reinforces the visual impression of a classy horse with a good turn of speed and definitely a supreme contender for me

He'll have the same inflated rpr in March after the Supreme Others will achieve a higher rpr. Im thinking that hes a GD 2 horse.

[Kevloaf]

Fry seems to have a promising novice every season since the Neon wolf days, this lad does look very good and hope he stays sound for years to come, although I've been very vocal on the whole what he should be assigned vs what he could be capable of given the division at present you couldn't knock him out the 3 whether that be visuals or on the clock at this moment in time.

P.S there is a great literal NEON WOLF pic, get that avatar swapped i keep thinking you are on a bakeoff thread

I agree.
With all of it.
Even the P.S.

[Outlaw]

I agree.
With all of it.
Even the P.S.

Alpha pic that ! Heard your odds in the tipping comp are contracting through intimidation.

[Bigfish]

Its a sliding scale .Mdn Hd IRE early season 148 equals GD1 Nov. HD March 164 .

[Bigfish]

According to my chart.

[Quevega]

Alpha pic that ! Heard your odds in the tipping comp are contracting through intimidation.

Looks like Gay Wolf to me

[Bigfish]

Metier achieves 158

[fatherjohn]

He'll have the same inflated rpr in March after the Supreme Others will achieve a higher rpr. Im thinking that hes a GD 2 horse.

who do you have as your grade 1 novice 2m hurdlers ahead of him. I dont think the market has front 2 wrong which would surely make him a grade 1 horse

[Kevloaf]

Bigfish

Less than one hour ago I asked you quite politely via direct message, not to post one lined posts with no reason or theory behind it... I know you've read that, as you've responded.

Yet here we are, with 3 posts above.


How do you think I should react to that?

[Bigfish]

Thank me for not being long widenened

[Bigfish]

who do you have as your grade 1 novice 2m hurdlers ahead of him. I dont think the market has front 2 wrong which would surely make him a grade 1 horse

I have Ferney Hollow , Ballyadam, Bob Olinger, Boothill and Dusart. 2 are injured though.

[Bigfish]

If Malone Road returns or Micro Manage improves for his run then Metier is a back number IMO

[FrenchHolly]

Genuine question and apologetically hypothetical. How would you have felt about Metiers performance if ‘Arry’hadn’t run with Metier beating Do Your Job by 19 lengths more than llandinabo lad, recognising DYJ beat many peoples county hurdle fancy by over 9 lengths (with the 3rd home bolting up by 28 lengths lto)and llandinabo subsequently giving My Drogo a good race giving weight away. I am not saying Metier is the next Pegasus but to say you can’t be having him at ANY price seems a little harsh to me.

First of all in general I don't think a lot to any of the British novice hurdlers bar Bravemansgame. To answer your question regarding DYJ, I'm pretty certain Cadzand has improved considerably since being beaten at Ayr, horses obviously improve at different rates, so in my opinion and thats all it is, I regard that line of form as dubious. I honestly don't believe that DYJ ran up to his best on Saturday, as Michael Scudamores horses aren't flying at the moment. My point was if AI was mine I'd prefer to go the Supreme route as the opposition looks weaker to me. If Metier wins at Cheltenham, I'll hold my hands up and say I was badly wrong but regardless of price wouldn't be on my mind.