Supreme/Ballymore/Albert Bartlett - Novice Hurdles 2021

[TheRowebot]

Cheveley Park today...

Richardson added: “The Royal Bond was the plan for Ballyadam, which he won nicely, and obviously the Supreme Novices’ Hurdle at Cheltenham (is a target), but where we go before then I’m not quite sure yet.

[ComplyOrDie]

Willie has a few, and probably worth keeping an eye on entries and backing accordingly as opposed to backing anything else just yet, IMO.

The big doubt for me, although it's a big IF, but IF Ferny Hollow was the stable number 1 what are the chances his number two would be good enough anyway. When was the last time a Willie Mullins number two won a Supreme?

Are we just looking for the sake of it being Willie? Which, I'm massively guilty of before the season has even started.

[charlie]

Thank goodness for GL - I'd never have known to look out for horses from France going to Willie Mullins

Yeah he's interesting though, especially if declared.

There will be a bunch of similar profiled horses that we need to keep our eyes on over Chritmaaaas. I'd forgotten about him specifically, but I think because his name is shit.

He went into the actual numbers tbf (below is what he said):

Before 2009 WPM had won 12 races in 14 years
Introduce French horses
Since then he's won 60 races at Cheltenham
38 of those started their careers in France
In the last 3 years he's had 18 wins, 13 by horses previously in France

How tragic is it that the best/most informative episode of UTT is the first one

[DeeBee]

A month or two back I was dwelling over the targets of Ballyadam, Ferny & Appreciate It. I have Ballyadam covered for both the supreme and Ballymore so no issues there, but only Ferny in the Supreme and Appreciate It in the Ballymore. My worst fear was if CP didn’t want to commit both to the supreme and Ferny ending up being the one more suited to a step up n trip and In doing so forcing Appreciate It to do the same and head to the Albert Bartlett

Following the initial rumours of Ferny being injured we saw the flood of money for Appreciate It for the Ballymore. At the time I had thought (hoped) it was stable money as a result of good work at home.

following today’s confirmation, im now wondering what the real reason was.. was it that with Ferny out of the frame Mullins could commit to the Ballymore for Appreciate It? The race he was best suited to but possibly not guaranteed to run in because of Ferny and Ballyadam? Was he simply sparking at home and Ferny news at the time was just a coincidence? Or am I just overthinking the whole thing and it’s bookmaker tactics?

I don’t have the dates/odds to hand but from memory we were looking at a hills best price of 12/1 (around 10 days ago) for Appreciate It, down to 6/1 as of yesterday and 5/1 today... that can’t solely rest around another horse in the stable surely??

[Topofthegame2021]

So now that we know that N’Golo is a decent type... does Malone Road come back into the Cheltenham picture? IMO he would’ve won if he didn’t clatter the last on his last appearance. Possibly stepped up in trip to the Ballymore?

thoughts?

[Run4Home]

Its simple, the best Supreme candidate we have seen so far is Ballyadam, there is nothin as of yet we have seen to suggest they would beat Ballyadam.

People try to be too smart with all these French imports, stick too what we have seen so far not what you have read from a stable tour

[Craigy14]

So now that we know that N’Golo is a decent type... does Malone Road come back into the Cheltenham picture? IMO he would’ve won if he didn’t clatter the last on his last appearance. Possibly stepped up in trip to the Ballymore?

thoughts?

Seems he is fragile now TOTG unfortunately.

The injury must have taken a good bit out him, Gordon obviously got him fit, ran him in a couple races, not sure if it worked how he planned (county maybe?)

[Topofthegame2021]

Seems he is fragile now TOTG unfortunately.

The injury must have taken a good bit out him, Gordon obviously got him fit, ran him in a couple races, not sure if it worked how he planned (county maybe?)

I was thinking the county too actually - although we haven’t seen him for a while and he has no entries... possibly another injury

[Redbridge]

I don't know if it works on Bays but Willie should have tried rubbing White Horse Oils into Ferny, it worked a treat back in the day.

[Kezz94]

Do we have any idea where Appreciate It will go? I've had a few quid on Bob Olinger for the Ballymore after his facile success the other day and hoping AI will go to the Bartlett, he's currently 20's and I'm tempted to throw a dart on that.

[Topofthegame2021]

Do we have any idea where Appreciate It will go? I've had a few quid on Bob Olinger for the Ballymore after his facile success the other day and hoping AI will go to the Bartlett, he's currently 20's and I'm tempted to throw a dart on that.

Convinced he will be a Ballymore horse and turn up with a favourites chance all being well - looks made for that 2 1/2 round Cheltenham

[ComplyOrDie]

Do we have any idea where Appreciate It will go? I've had a few quid on Bob Olinger for the Ballymore after his facile success the other day and hoping AI will go to the Bartlett, he's currently 20's and I'm tempted to throw a dart on that.

Can't see any reason currently why he wouldn't go Ballymore.

I was very much of the same thinking at the beginning of the season, that he may be a Bartlett horse, but he doesn't lack speed either, so I suspect it will be Ballymore now.

[taylorch1990]

Betting would suggest Ballymore, but he's one of the hardest to place personally. Could easily run in any of the 3 novice hurdles at the festival. Ferny being injured opening the door more to the supreme. I'd would have it 60/30/10 for ballymore/supreme/Bartlett.

[Run4Home]

Looks fairly straight forward that its the Ballymore doesn't it?
All the connections talking about stepping up and a few of them have actually mentioned the Ballymore.

The money came for him in the Ballymore too after they knew Ferny was injured so would think Ferny injury is irrelevant to target.

[darlojim]

El barra entered up over 2m4 on 29th at Leopardstown, be interesting to see if he gets declared or not. Probably worth grabbing the prices now if people have cashout as hes a likely one to shorten up in the betting.

Whats people's thought on his ideal distance and target?