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Supreme/Ballymore/Albert Bartlett - Novice Hurdles 2021
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Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
He is by Flemensfirth, so originally I thought he couldn't go to the Supreme, however, he has a very different profile than many, I assume he was purchased as a Store? There's no PTP and no bumper runs to date, there is a possibility for sure that he could end up a Supreme horse. I liked what I saw, and will look to back him with cash out available very soon.
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Originally posted by Quevega View Post
If he is a superstar, and I think he is more than likely going to show that he is.
He should go straight to the Gold cup and stop messing about.
Could easily get three more runs in and then Gold cup.
I know some will say Why ? Blah de blah boring !
Because you strike while you can IMO and to get away with no injury or hiccup and comeback year after year and become champion in the next division is very tough.
If Coneygree can do it then this lad can too. He had 9 starts under rules before winning the Gold cup and just three chases.
Al Boum only completed 4 chases before winning also.
You don't need three or four schooling race like the one the other day.
If he is a class above the Irish novices when he goes graded over the Winter then they should definitely think about it.
He has beaten rubbish in one chase?
Let's see him first prove he even stays three miles, let alone three and a quarter in open company. When are we likely to see him running over that distance in a competitive race?
If getting three miles was a penalty kick then the RSA would be the logical Gold Cup trial rather than running him over the intermediate trip in what is likely to be a less competitive race.
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Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
Gold Cup?
He has beaten rubbish in one chase?
Let's see him first prove he even stays three miles, let alone three and a quarter in open company. When are we likely to see him running over that distance in a competitive race?
If getting three miles was a penalty kick then the RSA would be the logical Gold Cup trial rather than running him over the intermediate trip in what is likely to be a less competitive race.
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Originally posted by Another Value Loser View Post
Word of warning staking anteposts with these tinpot firms COD - earlier this year I had a few antepost selections with MoPlay for Cheltenham however they went bump early in 2020. Fortunately, none of the bets I staked with them went onto win. Lesson learned for me and I won't have any long-term antepost positions with these tinpot firms going forward.
A standout price like that is different though and I would perhaps be tempted (if my VirginBet account wasn't chinned!). Just got to factor in the risk that the Bookie may be gone by the time the festival arrives. If you see any screenshots of Oddschecker from a couple of years ago, it shows just how quickly these small firms come and go...
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Originally posted by Quevega View Post
Read it properly.
To be an outstanding racehorse you need to produce at least some outstanding performances. He might be unbeaten but he hasn't produced one.
He was a bit better than Blue Sari as a bumper horse.
A bit better than Abacadabras as a two mile hurdler and better than various Grade 2 and Grade 3 horses as a two and a half mile hurdler.
And he has easily beaten rubbish in one chase run.
Any talk of running in or winning Gold Cups is very premature. He still has much to prove. At the moment he is a, maybe the, cheerleader horse for the sport.
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Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
I have read it twice now - what am I missing? I was replying to your mention of the Gold Cup.
To be an outstanding racehorse you need to produce at least some outstanding performances. He might be unbeaten but he hasn't produced one.
He was a bit better than Blue Sari as a bumper horse.
A bit better than Abacadabras as a two mile hurdler and better than various Grade 2 and Grade 3 horses as a two and a half mile hurdler.
And he has easily beaten rubbish in one chase run.
Any talk of running in or winning Gold Cups is very premature. He still has much to prove. At the moment he is a, maybe the, cheerleader horse for the sport.
Give me a novice hurdler that has produced an outstanding performance KB?
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Originally posted by kinloch brae View Post
I have read it twice now - what am I missing? I was replying to your mention of the Gold Cup.
To be an outstanding racehorse you need to produce at least some outstanding performances. He might be unbeaten but he hasn't produced one.
He was a bit better than Blue Sari as a bumper horse.
A bit better than Abacadabras as a two mile hurdler and better than various Grade 2 and Grade 3 horses as a two and a half mile hurdler.
And he has easily beaten rubbish in one chase run.
Any talk of running in or winning Gold Cups is very premature. He still has much to prove. At the moment he is a, maybe the, cheerleader horse for the sport.
This provides the context required when I went on to mention the 'unlikely' consideration of a Gold cup run in March.
I also provided, for context, a comparative novice chaser who did in fact achieve a win in a Gold cup. Obviously Coneygree had proven his class by beating Houblon des Obeaux
You clearly don't rate the horse as much as many others do.
You clearly don't see the same potential he is showing as much as others do.
And this is absolutely your prerogative.
However, you're comprehension is poor in this instance or you're being deliberately ignorant, IF you cannot see what I was meaning in the original comment.
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Hendo in RP
"It doesn't happen very often," said Henderson, pointing out that not all siblings have the same ability. "We've looked at lots of Simonsig's relations over the years and Ronnie's words were always the same – could Maradona's brother play football?
"We've left a few behind but he was in the Derby Sale and was lovely. He's very nice and Nico [de Boinville] was mad about him."
The winning rider, not one to get carried away in the moment, was certainly smitten with the winner, who he thinks will get two and a half miles with time.
"He's just a real standout animal – a proper horse," said De Boinville. "I loved the way he jumped the last. He's very different to Simonsig – this horse is a proper National Hunt type."
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Is that quote about todays winner, or him highlighting jus thow unlikely it is Flinteur Sacre is actually going to be top class?
The chances of having not one, but TWO full siblings in the yard as novice hurdlers that go on to be better than their brothers is impressive.
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostIs that quote about todays winner, or him highlighting jus thow unlikely it is Flinteur Sacre is actually going to be top class?
The chances of having not one, but TWO full siblings in the yard as novice hurdlers that go on to be better than their brothers is impressive.
He probably used it again.
Just watched the Racing TV Hendo interview he did say it again.Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 5 November 2020, 07:53 PM."Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".
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