Cheltenham 2021 - Ante Post Bets

[Faugheen_Machine]

Nice write up SP - your thoughts on Monkfish are the same as mine and I'm happy to keep chipping away while he's a double figure price.

[FaugheenTheMachine]

What have Cheveley Park got for the Champion bumper this time?

[JackieMoon33]

What have Cheveley Park got for the Champion bumper this time?

Possibly either Sir Gerhard or Deploy The Getaway. Both were purchased last season but never made the track. I was hoping to see them at Punchestown but that got cancelled. They may choose to sacrifice the bumper seasons and move straight over hurdles as they’re both a year older and were bought to jump. Sir Gerhard is the one I’m most looking forward to.

[Lobos]

What have Cheveley Park got for the Champion bumper this time?

Gloire Dathon maybe. Gone to Broomhead though and he's not renowned for Bumper Horses. It is an option though.

Scrap that. He's a winner on flat in France so doubt he's eligible?

[Kevloaf]

Possibly either Sir Gerhard or Deploy The Getaway. Both were purchased last season but never made the track. I was hoping to see them at Punchestown but that got cancelled. They may choose to sacrifice the bumper seasons and move straight over hurdles as they’re both a year older and were bought to jump. Sir Gerhard is the one I’m most looking forward to.

Elliott and Mullins.

Certainly with the right trainers.




True in almost every race

[Fatjockey69]

Sir gerhard I think will stick to the bumpers this season and will the champion bumper. Cheveley just like having winners at Cheltenham.

[JackieMoon33]

Sir gerhard I think will stick to the bumpers this season and will the champion bumper. Cheveley just like having winners at Cheltenham.

I’ve seen the comment about Cheveley ‘just wanting to have winners’ a couple of times and I’m not sure of that myself. The bumper winners they have had have followed in after their PtP season so its a traditional route for horses of that age. As the two above missed their bumper season, will they hold them back another year just to win another bumper? You could be right as they do have plenty of depth for novice hurdles, but if you look at the majority of the horses they’re buying, chasers and potential Gold Cup winners is what they seem to be focusing on most.

[ComplyOrDie]

Sir gerhard I think will stick to the bumpers this season and will the champion bumper. Cheveley just like having winners at Cheltenham.

Deploy The Getaway for the Ballymore. Ballyadam a smoke screen

[BigChaang]

Some antepost bets I have had so far:

Defi Du Seuil - Champion Chase - 14/1

Excellent write up S.P , i like those three , although i am also really .
Keen on P.T.K.O for the Ch. Chs too. Look forward to.
hearing your thoughts on other horses. Gold cup ?.

[SamuelP]

Excellent write up S.P , i like those three , although i am also really .
Keen on P.T.K.O for the Ch. Chs too. Look forward to.
hearing your thoughts on other horses. Gold cup ?.

I like PTKO too. She travels and jumps well and seems to have a good attitude. I like how she knuckled down on the run in in the Arkle and ran through the line. On the face of it, PTKO and Fakir pulling away from the rest of the field like they did seems good form, but the more i watch races back and think about it, the more unconvinced I am. I don't think it was a great renewal and the ground wasn't great, perhaps the margin between the front two and the rest was exacerbated by them handling the ground better? Also I think the previous race between Notebook and Cash Back may have left a mark on them and could explain their poor showings? I don't think the previous form of PTKO and Fakir is outstanding (some good form but not outstanding) so I feel I need more evidence, perhaps on better ground. But having cast my doubts I think both are on an upward curve and, given the relative weak nature of the current 2m Chase Division, I have had a nibble at both at odds of 20s+. I do prefer the 14s on Defi, though; multiple grade 1 winner who looks set to go down the same route according to the trainer.

As for the Gold Cup, I like the two novices in Champ and Minella Indo. I have done a u-turn on Champ since this time last season. He's got a serious engine and if he can brush up on the jumping will be a serious force. As for Minella Indo if he had pinged the last in the RSA perhaps he would have won, and would therefore have been a little shorter for the Gold Cup. The mistake seemed to stop his momentum but he seemed to pick back up when Champ came past, suggesting he had more in the tank despite battling with Allaho for a long time.
Another I sensed was value in the aftermath of the festival was Delta Work, who was 40/1 for a while (only had a point on). If you watch the Gold Cup back, DW put in a really poor round of jumping. He never got into any sort of rhythm but still managed to get within 6 lengths of ABP. Perhaps with Davy or Jack on board next season he will jump better and maybe hit the frame. He did win 2 open grade 1's last season so the form is there and he'll still only be 8 next year.
I still feel ABP is the one to beat and if he remains at 6/1 before his first run next season I might have to add. TOTG interesting too, but perhaps inconsistent and coming back from injury. Therefore he could lose a race and the price could lengthen.

[Nortons who]

As already posted in my Diary.

Interesting to see Mogul appear in the betting for the Triumph Hurdle, so I couldn't resist 0.5 point to win at boosted odds of 57-1.

I dont want to start a conspiracy theory, as there probably isn't any substantive evidence yet, particularly since A P O'Brien is adamant that Mogul is still being aimed at the Derby.

But what if Mogul was to follow a similar path to Sir Erec and switch codes after running at Ascot. The transition of trainers from APO to J P O'Brien is something we have seen before and maybe it's also not a coincidence that Michael Tabor and Mrs John Magnier who part own Mogul also part owned Sir Erec and we know they are close friends with JP. Mcmanus. Could lightning strike twice ?

[Hardy Eustace]

Couple of price cuts since the hills shops reopened. Thyme hill 16 > 14. Abracadabras 8 > 6.

[Faugheen_Machine]

As already posted in my Diary.

Interesting to see Mogul appear in the betting for the Triumph Hurdle, so I couldn't resist 0.5 point to win at boosted odds of 57-1.

I dont want to start a conspiracy theory, as there probably isn't any substantive evidence yet, particularly since A P O'Brien is adamant that Mogul is still being aimed at the Derby.

But what if Mogul was to follow a similar path to Sir Erec and switch codes after running at Ascot. The transition of trainers from APO to J P O'Brien is something we have seen before and maybe it's also not a coincidence that Michael Tabor and Mrs John Magnier who part own Mogul also part owned Sir Erec and we know they are close friends with JP. Mcmanus. Could lightning strike twice ?

Surely they are eyeing up the Derby at this stage, not the Triumph hurdle.

[YoungHustler]

As already posted in my Diary.

Interesting to see Mogul appear in the betting for the Triumph Hurdle, so I couldn't resist 0.5 point to win at boosted odds of 57-1.

I dont want to start a conspiracy theory, as there probably isn't any substantive evidence yet, particularly since A P O'Brien is adamant that Mogul is still being aimed at the Derby.

But what if Mogul was to follow a similar path to Sir Erec and switch codes after running at Ascot. The transition of trainers from APO to J P O'Brien is something we have seen before and maybe it's also not a coincidence that Michael Tabor and Mrs John Magnier who part own Mogul also part owned Sir Erec and we know they are close friends with JP. Mcmanus. Could lightning strike twice ?

I would be absolutely astounded if Mogul was to end up in the Triumph.

[Lobos]

As already posted in my Diary.

Interesting to see Mogul appear in the betting for the Triumph Hurdle, so I couldn't resist 0.5 point to win at boosted odds of 57-1.

I dont want to start a conspiracy theory, as there probably isn't any substantive evidence yet, particularly since A P O'Brien is adamant that Mogul is still being aimed at the Derby.

But what if Mogul was to follow a similar path to Sir Erec and switch codes after running at Ascot. The transition of trainers from APO to J P O'Brien is something we have seen before and maybe it's also not a coincidence that Michael Tabor and Mrs John Magnier who part own Mogul also part owned Sir Erec and we know they are close friends with JP. Mcmanus. Could lightning strike twice ?

Honestly? In a word....no.