Cheltenham 2021 - Ante Post Bets

[Priceiskey]

A few questions I've been pondering, don't know if anyone's got a view:

1. What will Willie do with Aramon next season. He'll be 8 next year so if he's ever going to go chasing it's presumably got to be now or never.

2. Same question really. What will Gordon do with Aramax? Thought the way he stayed on up thee hill to win the FW off 11st 8lb was pretty decent.

3. If Klassical Dream is fit again and also goes chasing you could have these 3 Festival winners up against Shishkin in the Arkle which would be some race.
KD is currently best price 25-1 for the Arkle and Shishkin is 4-1. The other two aren't quoted. What would be the likely SPs of this quartet if they all lined up for the Arkle?

I would say ARAMAX is too young and should stay hurdling for another season. ARAMON is too old and I’d stay hurdling and try a take a big handicap in Ireland. KLASSICAL DREAM looks a horse who has lost his confidence so I’ll leave him well alone until I see him back to his best. He does love soft ground so if he does make it to the Arkle there’s a strong chance he’ll get his ground.

[Craigy14]

1) Agree with MoM County hurdle would be the logical place for him to go.

2) Could see Aramax step up in trip and go for the coral cup next year

3) There are a lot of question marks for me regarding Klassical Dream at 2 miles. I would be more interested in him as a Marsh horse.

Could the problem trying to step him up that he doesn’t settle well?

Always goes off from the front and pulls like a barge.

[Liverpoolchamp]

Got me fingers burnt backing klassical drram ante post this year,and have to say it wouldn’t have mattered at all if he made it to the fez because the horse this year for whatever reason turned into a absolute screwball! Leave him well alone

[BigChaang]

I had this with Coral a year ago.....all money was lost on gaming, which i don't use.

They were v good....did an investigation and then refunded full amount

Tiger , do you have cashout available with Corals ??.

[Istabraq]

Just checked and I can't double them tonight either.

Hills crack down?

No 'any race' selection can be added to multiples with Hills today either, has the look of like a strategy change.
Very very disappointing....

[Faugheen_Machine]

No 'any race' selection can be added to multiples with Hills today either, has the look of like a strategy change.
Very very disappointing....

That's a blow. I wonder what has changed for them to remove this feature.

[Star Of A Gunner]

This is a shame because all my bets with them are doubles trebs and Yankees all twar. Up until when last season could you place these bets?

[Quevega]

Betfair update.

Got an email today, automated email saying account had been closed as third party access had been detected !!

Suffice to say, I tried logging in and account closed.

Once again the merry go round of no email or phone number to call, even on the email that they sent (replying to this bounced back too)

Trying to get on the chat thing is impossible as it keeps asking me to log in.

Fortunately I tried Kev's link again and on second attempt I managed to get access to chat to .......

wait for it.....

Daniela (not Destiny)

She appeared to suggest that my account had been breached again or at least suspicious log in attempts had been made.
I don't believe her and think they decided to send the email I should have had the first time and this triggered another closure (but I'm guessing)

Anyhow, she has promised a refund of the £200 and they are going to open a new account for me, and will call me once this has been done.

I'm pretty sure that they have had a data breach and user id's and passwords have been stolen from them, and they are covering this up (just guessing), but I'm as sure as I can be that my device has not been compromised (as they say on the telly)

Anyway, they are fucking useless cunts.

Opened the account three years ago and got restricted on sportsbook after just 6 bets (2 winners)
So only used rarely, although have started to use exchange more in last year or so.

It's Poor service to notice a security breach on a customers account and say nothing for nearly a month, until I tried to log in.

And when they suggest it happens again immediately after the account is reactivated and security details have been changed and strengthened, they send an email to advise me with no method of me communicating back with them (except for a wormhole created by Kev).
The same email I should have received a month back.

They have my phone number on file and I would expect a call in these circumstances.

When they do call, to let me know my new account is Open. They're going to get my annoyed tone. Imagine that.

[Craigy14]

Paddy power lets you do it but only 1 horse from the TWAR then can double/treble etc with a horse/s from a specific race.

Not sure if people already knew this. Also gives you cash out of course.

They don’t have nearly the same amount of horses priced up mind you.

[The King Pimm]

Betfair update.

Got an email today, automated email saying account had been closed as third party access had been detected !!

Suffice to say, I tried logging in and account closed.

Once again the merry go round of no email or phone number to call, even on the email that they sent (replying to this bounced back too)

Trying to get on the chat thing is impossible as it keeps asking me to log in.

Fortunately I tried Kev's link again and on second attempt I managed to get access to chat to .......

wait for it.....

Daniela (not Destiny)

She appeared to suggest that my account had been breached again or at least suspicious log in attempts had been made.
I don't believe her and think they decided to send the email I should have had the first time and this triggered another closure (but I'm guessing)

Anyhow, she has promised a refund of the £200 and they are going to open a new account for me, and will call me once this has been done.

I'm pretty sure that they have had a data breach and user id's and passwords have been stolen from them, and they are covering this up (just guessing), but I'm as sure as I can be that my device has not been compromised (as they say on the telly)

Anyway, they are fucking useless cunts.

Opened the account three years ago and got restricted on sportsbook after just 6 bets (2 winners)
So only used rarely, although have started to use exchange more in last year or so.

It's Poor service to notice a security breach on a customers account and say nothing for nearly a month, until I tried to log in.

And when they suggest it happens again immediately after the account is reactivated and security details have been changed and strengthened, they send an email to advise me with no method of me communicating back with them (except for a wormhole created by Kev).
The same email I should have received a month back.

They have my phone number on file and I would expect a call in these circumstances.

When they do call, to let me know my new account is Open. They're going to get my annoyed tone. Imagine that.

Sounds like you’re having a beast Q. I think one of the big problems with online bookmakers are present is most of their staff are furloughed. I’ve tried to get through to William Hill a few times on the phone and been waiting endlessly when normally I get straight through.

[Istabraq]

Q - the fact they’re refunding your £200 confirms they have made an error, you’ve suggested they may have had a data breach and I’m sure your aware they have a legal duty to protect your details.
I think you’re within your rights to request whether any data breach has taken place so you can advise bank(s) and add protection against any personal targeting.
It’s likely you’ll get a no response or a standard bullshit one, but your question will be valid.

The Gambling Commission are yoir next port of call as that’s who govern all UK betting company activities...

[Quevega]

Q - the fact they’re refunding your £200 confirms they have made an error, you’ve suggested they may have had a data breach and I’m sure your aware they have a legal duty to protect your details.
I think you’re within your rights to request whether any data breach has taken place so you can advise bank(s) and add protection against any personal targeting.
It’s likely you’ll get a no response or a standard bullshit one, but your question will be valid.

The Gambling Commission are yoir next port of call as that’s who govern all UK betting company activities...

Yep, I'm awaiting the call and will possibly pursue the data breach theory.
Fully aware of GDPR as my company provides Financial advice.
Pay for data protection licenses and all that shit.

[Istabraq]

I’ve heard people mention Hills have cashout on AP bets, can someone tell me where I would be able to find this ?
Have checked all open bets but can’t find any mention of cashout options.
Thanks

[The King Pimm]

No cash out available on any of my AP bets with Hills

[Kevloaf]

When they do call, to let me know my new account is Open. They're going to get my annoyed tone. Imagine that.