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Sky still have the Ladbrokes + Gold Cup double at 125/1
I know a lot of people like these double prices but they rarely seem particularly good value to me as for that to be value EDR would need to be less than 8/1 for the Ladbrokes and if he won that then less than 12s for the Gold Cup. The Skybet double becomes less attractive still if you can bet for both races separately with cash out.
Obvs if 365 put EDR in at say 6/1 for the Ladbrokes then the special double would be more appealing but I think that would be pretty short
I know a lot of people like these double prices but they rarely seem particularly good value to me as for that to be value EDR would need to be less than 8/1 for the Ladbrokes and if he won that then less than 12s for the Gold Cup. The Skybet double becomes less attractive still if you can bet for both races separately with cash out.
Obvs if 365 put EDR in at say 6/1 for the Ladbrokes then the special double would be more appealing but I think that would be pretty short
I agree that they are rarely value but this one won't be a millions miles out, imo. He should be single figures for the Hennessy when they price him up.
De Bromhead added:' "I'm happy with that, he is a grand horse. We were a bit unlucky at Cheltenham, how it would have fared, who knows.
“I'm delighted for Peter Davies, he is a great supporter of ours and it's nice to win this race. Today was to get him started and try to get him some confidence back.
“We have entered him in the race at Newbury, the Ladbroke Trophy, we just entered him in that this morning. He could possibly go for that, I'm not sure.
“We will take it one day at a time with him. Rachael said he was pretty straight today and we had him ready for it."
I don't see them raising his mark based on that performance, if they did then maybe a pound or two at most. You'd have to think Henry sends him to Newbury just to try and keep all 3 of them split up this season.
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Happy with today - beating race fit rivals easily is the bare minimum with a view to this, although I don't think we learnt a huge amount today with a view to this. Can't wait to see EDR pitched in the deep end somewhere. We'll know then what we have on our hands
I agree that they are rarely value but this one won't be a millions miles out, imo. He should be single figures for the Hennessy when they price him up.
Was really impressed with Eklat De Rire yesterday, seen a few comments on other media forms writing him off as a boat but would think it’s probably hard to not look a bit workmanlike in that sort of ground. His jumping looks a huge asset, made ground at a lot and clever & efficient putting in a short one where he had to be, there were 14 fences yesterday in Wexford thats 8 less than in a gold cup and that should see him to better effect too.
Henry didn’t seem too keen on going for the Hennessy post-race or at least didn’t sound fully sold on it so be interesting to see where he goes next but can’t wait to see him be properly tested and wouldn’t mind seeing how he fares on some better ground somewhere before the winter sets in properly
He's just the kind of boat that wins a Gold Cup though. The flashier clasier types only win Gold Cups when his type aren't around. The term boat for him is wide of the mark in my opinion. His type win or run well in Gold Cups when they're young, and become boats afterwards.
The Gold Cup definitely fits an ideal 'type' The War Of Attrition's, Sizing John's, and even (my all time faourite) Kauto Star's win when proper stayers aren't around. It's why I don't see something like Envoi Allen winning. It's also largely won by 7 and 8 year olds these days too. Only two 9 year olds in the last 11 seasons have won it. Second season chasers are almost a must now. The exception being Al Boum Photo who was still only 8 second time. He was third best last year as a 9 year old dual champion with relatively little mileage on the clock.
Eklat De Rire may not end up being as good as his other two stablemates Minella Indo and A Plus Tard, but those two had a war last March, and it remains to be seen if either is the same horse this season. Native River was flat the season following his win, and it completely broke Might Bite. I'd say an 8 year old thorough stayer with very little mileage on the clock is perfect for the race on the surface. At the moment though he's still relatively untested, so how good remains to be seen. If he turns up in the Hennessy we'll get our answer.
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Spectre Agree with every word mate. Can’t believe the 40s is still available and if I hadn’t already added him I would be, just seems a very fair price still when there are plenty forward of him in the market that we already know won’t be good enough unless they can find a stone of improvement they haven’t found in many more runs prior than Eklat De Rire has already had. He has it to prove but has so much in his favour to do so, IMO.
Was really impressed with Eklat De Rire yesterday, seen a few comments on other media forms writing him off as a boat but would think it’s probably hard to not look a bit workmanlike in that sort of ground. His jumping looks a huge asset, made ground at a lot and clever & efficient putting in a short one where he had to be, there were 14 fences yesterday in Wexford thats 8 less than in a gold cup and that should see him to better effect too.
Henry didn’t seem too keen on going for the Hennessy post-race or at least didn’t sound fully sold on it so be interesting to see where he goes next but can’t wait to see him be properly tested and wouldn’t mind seeing how he fares on some better ground somewhere before the winter sets in properly
Eklet was solid yesterday, jumped the majority of fences well especially given his size and the very soft ground. He was pressured a bit by Conflated and the Big Dog but just pulled away enough each time they tried to pull alongside. He has the style and stature of a Gold Cup horse from his debut yesterday and who knows what would have happened if he hadn’t fell in the BANC when travelling well.
The question I’m concerned about is whether HDB would run 3 in the Gold Cup or save one of them for the Grand National?? If so then it wouldn’t be a surprise that Eklet goes for the GNash, he is owner is English and he’s have a very good chance
I think when you look at the market and if 40/1 etc he was worth doing as still being lightly raced, you have to think as well injuries are due to happen and what price would he be if the front two got injured leaving a field with a Champ and other exposed regressive types for the race?
Eklet was solid yesterday, jumped the majority of fences well especially given his size and the very soft ground. He was pressured a bit by Conflated and the Big Dog but just pulled away enough each time they tried to pull alongside. He has the style and stature of a Gold Cup horse from his debut yesterday and who knows what would have happened if he hadn’t fell in the BANC when travelling well.
The question I’m concerned about is whether HDB would run 3 in the Gold Cup or save one of them for the Grand National?? If so then it wouldn’t be a surprise that Eklet goes for the GNash, he is owner is English and he’s have a very good chance
I'd say no chance he'd go to the Grand National TKP. He's far too inexperienced for a race like that. If he proves good enough the Gold Cup is nailed on.
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I'd say no chance he'd go to the Grand National TKP. He's far too inexperienced for a race like that. If he proves good enough the Gold Cup is nailed on.
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