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  • #61
    Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

    To be fair it’s a great opportunity to press, if he jumps 2 out 10l off leader and not trying everyone should be smashing the 25s for the National, if he looks a trier and goes past the field approaching the last hit the Gold Cup button
    Already hit both as I'm shopping that day

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
      Faugheen_Machine will probably be hiding in a dark corner headbutting the wall throughout the race…
      He owes him nothing. Hopefully he has a picture of him on his bedroom wall

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Istabraq View Post
        Faugheen_Machine will probably be hiding in a dark corner headbutting the wall throughout the race…
        I'm going into work that day and I think it might be best that I miss the race

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          He owes him nothing. Hopefully he has a picture of him on his bedroom wall
          I've got Galvin wallpaper

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

            I've got Galvin wallpaper
            On the ceiling?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by That Horse View Post

              On the ceiling?
              no comment!

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              • #67
                I've got a toilet seat with him on.

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                • #68
                  Hills have priced up galvins race on Wednesday.

                  6/5 Galvin
                  7/4 Brahma Bull
                  5/2 Annamix
                  40/1 bar


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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Hardy Eustace View Post
                    Hills have priced up galvins race on Wednesday.

                    6/5 Galvin
                    7/4 Brahma Bull
                    5/2 Annamix
                    40/1 bar

                    Half tempted with the following

                    Brahma Bull and Galvin (XC) double @ 34/1
                    Brahma Bull and Galvin (GN) double @ 70.5/1

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by jono View Post

                      Half tempted with the following

                      Brahma Bull and Galvin (XC) double @ 34/1
                      Brahma Bull and Galvin (GN) double @ 70.5/1
                      I like this a lot - though that’s almost certainly confirmation bias.

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                      • #71
                        I'm very hopeful A Plus Tard can follow up his second place last season and go one better this season.

                        I'm not sure the novices hold a strong hand at all now Monkfish is out for the season.

                        Envoi Allen, I still hold onto the hope that he can fulfil the promise but he needs to first prove he's ok following an injury. Second, improve on his 163 rating. And then three, prove he stays the 3m2 distance.

                        Chantry House on paper looks just the type to turn into a contender for the race. But i'm yet to be convinced from any of his runs last season. He won two grade ones for virtue of staying up for me.

                        I don't see anyone else from the Marsh even running in the race. And it was probably one of the worst RSA's for a while, probably 2015 and Don Poli. Eklat de Rire is a free shot at 66/1 with cashout. I'm tempted to add, and I really should for such little risk. The Irish grade 1 3 mile trials can often have big outsiders fill the frame. And if he did that his price plummets. But i'm fairly sure it won't come to anything.

                        So i'm very much looking at the 1-2 in last seasons race. I'll admit I jumped ship from Minella Indo and onto A Plus Tard as the season progressed. I was delighted to be proved wrong. Minella Indo will on all known evidence meet defeat between now the and festival. But i'm not sure his price will increase considerably. It's well known just how much improvement he shows at the festival, year after year. Whilst I'd love to hold off and back him after a defeat at a bigger price. I think you're probably only talking a couple of points max. The hope is that Bet365 or another go big straight after in a move against cashing out.

                        Back onto A Plus Tard. He ran a huge race. In the past I was quick to dismiss horses coming back for another shot at the race. I refused to consider Native River in 2018, despite the ground conditions coming into his favour for that sole reason. So since then i've been far more open to the possibility of a horse doing so.

                        APT, having run for much of his career over 2- 2 1/2miles should be relatively lightly raced in staying chases. A look at the last 8 winners of the race shows:

                        Minella Indo - Won on his 7th 3m run over fences
                        Al Boum Photo - 3rd and 5th
                        Native River - 9th
                        Sizing John - 2nd
                        Don Cossack - 9th
                        Coneygree - 3rd
                        Lord Windermere - 5th
                        Bobs Worth - 5th

                        The Gold Cup was only his 3rd run over 3miles. And with a light campaign of just the Betfair Chase and Savills Chase this season lined up. Would see him line up in the Gold Cup on only his 6th run over 3 miles. The worry that the races may have taken their toll shouldn't be there, on the face of it.

                        Importantly 7 year olds have performed very well in the race and plenty have gone on to actually improve on:

                        Al Boum Photo - Won the Gold Cup at 7. Followed the winning again at 8 years old
                        Native River - 3rd at 7 years old. Won the race as an 8 year old
                        Sizing John - Won at 7 years old. Didn't get a chance to follow up the year after but followed up by winning the Punchestown Gold Cup plus the following season John Durkan
                        Sir des Champs - 2nd at 7 years old. Didn't get a chance to follow up the year after but followed up by winning the Punchestown Gold Cup
                        Minella Rocco - 2nd at 7 years old. Didn't get chance to follow up.
                        Djakadam - 2nd at 6 and 7 years old. Then 4th at 8 years old.

                        For me there's every reason to think he'll be one of the main challengers once again come March.
                        And no major concern that he may have missed his chance in the race. As his age, a career over shorter distances to date and relative unexposed profile over 3 miles still could see him improve through the new season again.

                        For me there's not much between him and Minella Indo. I think the 4 points difference is slightly too large between the pair.
                        And I also think the fact Chantry House, the third favourite for the race is ony 4 points bigger is also wrong.


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                        • #72
                          A plus tard needs to brush up his jumping

                          Hes a bit slow getting from A to B

                          it cost him in the ryanair and in the gold cup

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                            A plus tard needs to brush up his jumping

                            Hes a bit slow getting from A to B

                            it cost him in the ryanair and in the gold cup
                            Slower ground in March to help him out? Been lucky the last two seasons to have good ground.
                            Will rewatch his win in the ex-Lexus, see if he jumped cleaner

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by opatcho View Post

                              Slower ground in March to help him out? Been lucky the last two seasons to have good ground.
                              Will rewatch his win in the ex-Lexus, see if he jumped cleaner
                              It was not so much how clean his jumps were

                              Watch the gold cup he was just a bit slow getting into stride after jumping each fence towards the end

                              Minella indo was making a length at least at every fence
                              Last edited by FinalFurlong91; 12 October 2021, 11:02 AM.

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                              • #75
                                Paddy Power cut a full 5 points off Galvin's GN price which must mean he loses today right ?? So we all should cash in GC bets and top up on GN yeah ?? I love this game.

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