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  • #31
    Imperial Aura going to the betfair chase according to Kim Bailey

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
      Imperial Aura going to the betfair chase according to Kim Bailey
      The same race won in 2010 by Imperial Commander before following up in the Gold Cup

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MadeinJapan View Post

        The same race won in 2010 by Imperial Commander before following up in the Gold Cup
        He had won the Ryanair though ! Not PU

        Funnily enough having just been talking about Allaho, this race would suit him being tested again at 3m perfectly.
        It's a rhythm track, and you can bowl along if you want.
        If he were to win then a crack at the King George would fit in nicely also.
        However, Willie clearly does not like sending them to this race for whatever reasons. So won't happen.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          He had won the Ryanair though ! Not PU

          Funnily enough having just been talking about Allaho, this race would suit him being tested again at 3m perfectly.
          It's a rhythm track, and you can bowl along if you want.
          If he were to win then a crack at the King George would fit in nicely also.
          However, Willie clearly does not like sending them to this race for whatever reasons. So won't happen.
          True - he’s got it to prove & we’ll find out if he’s good enough to have a serious shout in March over the coming months… guess that’s why he’s still available at 50s with the PU on his resume.

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          • #35
            Envoi Allen wins this head in chest, no?

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            • #36
              A really good chance, but stamina and wellbeing to prove I'd say Kev. That said his stamina may not get thoroughly tested until the Gold Cup.
              Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                Envoi Allen wins this head in chest, no?
                His first run back will be like waking up Xmas morning , seeing your present under the tree and slowly opening it up hoping that what's inside is what you've been waiting for. Id love it if he could come back all guns blazing and win the big one.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                  His first run back will be like waking up Xmas morning , seeing your present under the tree and slowly opening it up hoping that what's inside is what you've been waiting for. Id love it if he could come back all guns blazing and win the big one.
                  You big tart

                  Couldnt agree more!

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                  • #39
                    Was reading the RP analysis of Ontheropes' win at Limerick earlier today and it mentioned emulating Total Recall by going on to the Hennessy/Ladbroke.

                    It also stated Ontheropes was starting off from a higher base. Having read through Total Recall's race history, it got me thinking, are we looking at Willie's gold cup horse in Ontheropes?

                    Yes, it'd mean Cheveley would be overloading the GC potentially but they're about winning the big ones before bowing out in the next few years if they are winding down their involvement in NH racing.

                    I re-read the entry in Jumpers to follow, doesn't say much; 2nd season novice, good second behind Monkfish.

                    Obviously needs to take more steps forward but thought I would think it out loud o​​​n this thread and see what others thought.

                    Not backed him for anything yet, the Willie Mullins trends are steering me away from the NH chase and he's not priced up yet for the GC.

                    Thoughts?
                    Last edited by That Horse; 10 October 2021, 05:22 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by That Horse View Post
                      Was reading the RP analysis of Ontheropes' win at Limerick earlier today and it mentioned emulating Total Recall by going on to the Hennessy/Ladbroke.

                      It also stated Ontheropes was starting off from a higher base. Having read through Total Recall's race history, it got me thinking, are we looking at Willie's gold cup horse in Ontheropes?

                      Yes, it'd mean Cheveley would be overloading the GC potentially but they're about winning the big ones before bowing out in the next few years if they are winding down their involvement in NH racing.

                      I re-read the entry in Jumpers to follow, doesn't say much; 2nd season novice, good second behind Monkfish.

                      Obviously needs to take more steps forward but thought I would think it out loud o​​​n this thread and see what others thought.

                      Not backed him for anything yet, the Willie Mullins trends are steering me away from the NH chase and he's not priced up yet for the GC.

                      Thoughts?
                      I think he will go to the Ladbrokes/Hennessy.

                      Horses that win or place in that are usually Ultima and Grand National horses, these days.
                      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                        I think he will go to the Ladbrokes/Hennessy.

                        Horses that win or place in that are usually Ultima and Grand National horses, these days.
                        Willie wouldn't run it in the Ultima, I'd be pretty sure of that.
                        NH chase or Gold Cup. If he takes in Cheltenham.
                        And most likely NH chase cos he's a novice, and Willie would likely go this way.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                          Willie wouldn't run it in the Ultima, I'd be pretty sure of that.
                          NH chase or Gold Cup. If he takes in Cheltenham.
                          And most likely NH chase cos he's a novice, and Willie would likely go this way.
                          It’s definite that Willie won’t go to the Ultima with OTR, British horses often go that route, that was my point ( tough poorly expressed).

                          OTR should take the NHC route, it’s not often that novices run in the Ladbroke/Hennessy so normal rules of Grand National types, may not apply.

                          However it’s his third season chasing, so it’s not impossible that he gets an Aintree entry (the weights come out before Cheltenham so any run at the Fez wouldn’t affect a National bid if they wanted to have one) - Similar to second season Novice - Run Wild Fred, and would now be similarly weighted, in Ireland at least, around 146.



                          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                            Envoi Allen wins this head in chest, no?
                            who rides?

                            Who will Jack ride? Assuming Envoi and Indo make it?

                            Davy - Envoi?
                            Jack - Indo?
                            Rachael - A Plus ?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                              who rides?

                              Who will Jack ride? Assuming Envoi and Indo make it?

                              Davy - Envoi?
                              Jack - Indo?
                              Rachael - A Plus ?
                              If horses and jockeys all turned up fit, I'd imagine this would be the way it would pan out

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

                                who rides?

                                Who will Jack ride? Assuming Envoi and Indo make it?

                                Davy - Envoi?
                                Jack - Indo?
                                Rachael - A Plus ?
                                Surely Jack will be on Galvin if he turns up.

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