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2022 Gold Cup

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  • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
    Ahoy Senor 70/1 boosted with cash out is an absolute bet before Saturday.

    What price would he be if he wins beating Chantry House? And if the yard are ever going to run a novice in a gold cup, it’ll be when it’s a weak gold cup for depth (as this is) and a vintage RSA (as this is).

    At 70/1 and the luxury of cash out, I think you just have to back him on my view and then you can reassess Thursday if he’s declared and again Saturday evening after the race.
    Which bookie is this with MOM?

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    • Betfair I think, guess PP are same price.

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      • Originally posted by Pendil View Post

        Which bookie is this with MOM?
        Betfair/Paddy Power pal 66s with cashout and can be boosted to 70s with the usual Monday rewards club stuff

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        • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
          Ahoy Senor 70/1 boosted with cash out is an absolute bet before Saturday.

          What price would he be if he wins beating Chantry House? And if the yard are ever going to run a novice in a gold cup, it’ll be when it’s a weak gold cup for depth (as this is) and a vintage RSA (as this is).

          At 70/1 and the luxury of cash out, I think you just have to back him on my view and then you can reassess Thursday if he’s declared and again Saturday evening after the race.
          Good chance cash out will be gone straight away if he doesn't win

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          • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
            Ahoy Senor 70/1 boosted with cash out is an absolute bet before Saturday.

            What price would he be if he wins beating Chantry House? And if the yard are ever going to run a novice in a gold cup, it’ll be when it’s a weak gold cup for depth (as this is) and a vintage RSA (as this is).

            At 70/1 and the luxury of cash out, I think you just have to back him on my view and then you can reassess Thursday if he’s declared and again Saturday evening after the race.
            Beating Chantry House isn't Gold Cup winning form IMO

            He's 4/1 for the weekend, so is he going to be shorter than 12/1 if he did win? (that works out 64/1 as a double)
            Absolutely no chance he goes that short....... so you'd be better off doing it manually too, as relying on the cashout is a bit risky?

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            • Eklat to run a mighty race in the Thyestes tomorrow and re-enter the Gold Cup convo? Here's hoping...!

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              • Originally posted by jrjr View Post
                Eklat to run a mighty race in the Thyestes tomorrow and re-enter the Gold Cup convo? Here's hoping...!
                150/1 the double

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                • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                  150/1 the double
                  8/1 at the moment, would need to go sub 16/1 for GC for that to be better than doing it manually.

                  Not unfeasible I suppose. I'd probably rather take the 8/1 winnings tomorrow though - if I fancied him.


                  Still had my bet calculator up

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                    8/1 at the moment, would need to go sub 16/1 for GC for that to be better than doing it manually.

                    Not unfeasible I suppose. I'd probably rather take the 8/1 winnings tomorrow though - if I fancied him.


                    Still had my bet calculator up
                    It’s not one I’ve backed, just saw it on sky. I’ve already backed him, and I’d rather just watch tomorrow & would have to be really impressed to go in again.

                    Was a reason ever given for his run in the Ladbrokes?

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                      Beating Chantry House isn't Gold Cup winning form IMO

                      He's 4/1 for the weekend, so is he going to be shorter than 12/1 if he did win? (that works out 64/1 as a double)
                      Absolutely no chance he goes that short....... so you'd be better off doing it manually too, as relying on the cashout is a bit risky?
                      My thinking is there’s little likelihood of him being 4/1 if declared. More likely he’d be 11/4 I’d suggest.

                      And if he wasn’t declared, you can cash for your money back if you were inclined. Obviously if he ran and got beat, then cash out would drop/be removed but at this stage, I’d say it’s a very fair bet.

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                      • Franco de Port still 66/1 nrnb for this, ran well before for a horse I find a bit tripless, would prefer extra places but no chance until the day obviously.

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                        • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
                          Franco de Port still 66/1 nrnb for this, ran well before for a horse I find a bit tripless, would prefer extra places but no chance until the day obviously.
                          Surely he'll be 40splus with places if he run Moose

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                          • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
                            Franco de Port still 66/1 nrnb for this, ran well before for a horse I find a bit tripless, would prefer extra places but no chance until the day obviously.
                            What price do you think he should be?

                            I wouldn't be able to get past the 30L defeat over 3m at Christmas...

                            Just out classed at that level IMO.

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                              What price do you think he should be?

                              I wouldn't be able to get past the 30L defeat over 3m at Christmas...

                              Just out classed at that level IMO.
                              The price is probably right but a few will be scratched soon, as i said extra places needed if can get 4 or 5 places on the day at 33/1 or more I’d be looking to back.

                              It was encouraging that run before ridden quietly plus I like the Thyestes as a race for possible outsiders for this, you look at Djakadam and Onhisown who both won this off lower marks and ran well in the Gold Cup.

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                              • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post

                                The price is probably right but a few will be scratched soon, as i said extra places needed if can get 4 or 5 places on the day at 33/1 or more I’d be looking to back.

                                It was encouraging that run before ridden quietly plus I like the Thyestes as a race for possible outsiders for this, you look at Djakadam and Onhisown who both won this off lower marks and ran well in the Gold Cup.
                                For me Djakadam was on a steep upward curve then though, and won in that style... was 145 and then next thing he's a 165+ rated horse...

                                I don't see that profile from Franco De Port myself, but not knocking anyone looking for angles -

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