2022 Gold Cup

[MadeinJapan]

It obviously wasn't a deep race.

BDM ran terribly. Maybe ground, maybe at 10 he's just not as good.
IA fell before getting involved.
RP wants a bog and trainer said as much.
WP just doesn't look very good, perpetual dissapointer
The 3rd and 4th wouldn't stand a hope in hell in a GC.

So yeh, for all APT oozed class, it wasn't a remotely deep race.

This sums it up perfectly for me. I was gutted Imperial Aura fell when coming into the race as really wanted to see if he actually had the minerals to serve it up to APT or not. APT cleaned up against decent opposition who weren’t at their optimum/with their ideal conditions.

The most impressive thing for me was how he travelled and jumped throughout & that was with his first run of the season which he usually needs. I was all over him last year & haven’t touched him this year as others have stated he’s a returning loser… today might have changed my mind on it. At 4/1 however I won’t be piling in (rather see how it pans out) & I’ll still ride the Imperial Aura & Eklat tickets I’ve got.

[Lobos]

Now apparent that the 2nd and 3rd both received bad cuts so perhaps APT did have it all his own way.

[Our_Duke]

Now apparent that the 2nd and 3rd both received bad cuts so perhaps APT did have it all his own way.

Even if they didn't......

[Pendil]

An interesting , entry this week is Pencilfullloflead. Second beaten 1/2l by Colreevy giving 7lb for mares allowance. Colreevy finished her season beating Monkfish by 8l. Previously Pencil beat
Latest Exhibition by 7l , prior to LE being beaten 4l by Monkfish. He then equalled the performance of Eklat De Rire in finishing 3rd to that horse at Naas.

He needs to improve 20lb on ratings if Album Boum Photo turns up on Thursday but is worthy of an ew interest for the GC @ 66/1

[Saxon Warrior]

Now apparent that the 2nd and 3rd both received bad cuts so perhaps APT did have it all his own way.

He jumped and travelled really well.

Nothing to mark down from that performance.

Its less about the opposition and more about what APT did - in my assessment.

[Muswell]

If you aren’t with APT no point backing at this price, wait til
after the KG and reassess

[TigerRolllllll]

He jumped and travelled really well.

Nothing to mark down from that performance.

Its less about the opposition and more about what APT did - in my assessment.

Totally agree

Also, was only his third race at 3m….so improvement was always likely

[OscarWhisky]

All the talk pre race from various pundits was APTs first time out record which, to yesterday, wasn’t great. Tends to improve 7lbs plus for his first outing.

I think Henry had him pretty fit yesterday, this had been a long term plan after all. But I have no doubt that like most of Henry’s he’ll improve for the run.

He was up against some decent yardsticks, some of which undoubtedly weren’t at their best and underperformed. But APT has beaten them by over 20l hard on the steel showing, to my eye at least, improved jumping.

For me he’s the rightful favourite. He’s 7 going on 8, he wasn’t far off last year and yesterday he showed no ill effects from a tough race. Indeed I’d argue he showed he’s better for it. As pointed out above he’s unexposed over 3m and he’s just won over 3m 1f.

I’d give him an A Plus yesterday. Ahem.

[jono]

Whilst you can pick holes in the opposition he faced yesterday (and personally I think hindsight and the way he demolished the field has led to a slightly exaggerated opinion on how bad the race was) How much better is the Gold Cup going to be?

Minella Indo - 1 apiece - but Indo holds the edge with GC win
Al Boum Photo - beaten once
Delta Work - beaten once (UR)
Lostintranslation - beaten once (PU)
Champ - beaten once (PU)

Of the unknowns

Envoi - (level of uncertainty to whether he will run)
Galvin
Chantry House
Allaho - (Ryanair all day long for me)
Asterion Forlonge ?
Eklat de Rire

Of lasts years Gold Cup field.

A Plus Tard will be 8
Minella Indo will be 9
Royal Pagielle will be 8
The rest will be 10years plus

He’ll be the same age as the likes of Galvin, Chantry House, eklat de Rire, Asterion Forlonge, Envoi who (could) come into the race with their first shot.

No doubt the race will have one or two I haven’t mentioned

but it’s not like he’s produced that performance yesterday and A still needs prove himself in a Gold Cup or B has formidable opposition waiting come March

[Quevega]

It obviously wasn't a deep race.

BDM ran terribly. Maybe ground, maybe at 10 he's just not as good.
IA fell before getting involved.
RP wants a bog and trainer said as much.
WP just doesn't look very good, perpetual dissapointer
The 3rd and 4th wouldn't stand a hope in hell in a GC.

So yeh, for all APT oozed class, it wasn't a remotely deep race.

It was still a reasonably deep race though. At the start. In the context of a betfair chase.

Then it started and fell apart a bit. Although the winner looked like the winner from a long way out.
Your comments are simply a post race summary.

Might be terminology that's getting confused as it may be fairer to say the form is flattering a little cos of the reasons you've mentioned.
But it was an above average renewal for sure.

[Odin]

One thing to say about apt is that he's the only horse on the day who was still accelerating between 2 out and the last. It was like watching two different races if you were there, in a way I suspect the TV wouldn't pick up. He was very, very good.

Also worth noting Bravemansgame did not give the same visual impression (just staying on at the same pace to my eye).

[Faugheen_Machine]

Should APT really be shorter in the betting than Minella Indo?

Surely not.......

[Quevega]

Whilst you can pick holes in the opposition he faced yesterday (and personally I think hindsight and the way he demolished the field has led to a slightly exaggerated opinion on how bad the race was) How much better is the Gold Cup going to be?

Minella Indo - 1 apiece - but Indo holds the edge with GC win
Al Boum Photo - beaten once
Delta Work - beaten once (UR)
Lostintranslation - beaten once (PU)
Champ - beaten once (PU)

Of the unknowns

Envoi - (level of uncertainty to whether he will run)
Galvin
Chantry House
Allaho - (Ryanair all day long for me)
Asterion Forlonge ?
Eklat de Rire

Of lasts years Gold Cup field.

A Plus Tard will be 8
Royal Pagielle will be 8
The rest will be 10years plus

He’ll be the same age as the likes of Galvin, Chantry House, eklat de Rire, Asterion Forlonge, Envoi who (could) come into the race with their first shot.

No doubt the race will have one or two I haven’t mentioned

but it’s not like he’s produced that performance yesterday and A still needs prove himself in a Gold Cup or B has formidable opposition waiting come March

The hindsight comment
The ones in Bold = No fucking chance anyway.
So it looks like the top 3 from last year vs the new boys.
It kind of, is always the case though.

[YoungHustler]

All the talk pre race from various pundits was APTs first time out record which, to yesterday, wasn’t great. Tends to improve 7lbs plus for his first outing.

I think Henry had him pretty fit yesterday, this had been a long term plan after all. But I have no doubt that like most of Henry’s he’ll improve for the run.

He was up against some decent yardsticks, some of which undoubtedly weren’t at their best and underperformed. But APT has beaten them by over 20l hard on the steel showing, to my eye at least, improved jumping.

For me he’s the rightful favourite. He’s 7 going on 8, he wasn’t far off last year and yesterday he showed no ill effects from a tough race. Indeed I’d argue he showed he’s better for it. As pointed out above he’s unexposed over 3m and he’s just won over 3m 1f.

I’d give him an A Plus yesterday. Ahem.

Improved jumping was my main take from APT yesterday. He almost won the GC last year and looks to have improved again which imo, makes him a very solid favourite.

[Quevega]

Should APT really be shorter in the betting than Minella Indo?

Surely not.......

I think it's potentially a good opportunity for the ones that would back Minella Indo over A Plus Tard.
IMO Minella Indo don't win a King George
& A Plus Tard will likely win the Savilles.
The odds then should drift apart a little more and NRNB kicks in.

To be fair.
I would only be doing this at the prices and do not have a strong opinion that one is better than the other.
I'd still say that it's 60%+ that a new kid wins, but this year these 2 in particular are aged in the right bracket to repeat their performances.