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2022 Albert Bartlett Novices Hurdle

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  • He will be injured then but feeling that Henry will stick to JWM for Ballymore sadly as he has that Clonmel horse for the AB on Thursday.

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    • Originally posted by Rhinestone_Cowboy View Post

      Would assume so as also out of the Ballymore. Highly unlikely any horse which could go to multiple races will be scratched from just one at this stage.
      Yeah that’s correct out of both

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      • I don’t honestly see how Henry doesn’t send JWM to this after the last performance any horse with abit of pace would of beat him the last time just looks a galloping stayer. With gerri out has to be in consideration

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        • Is JWM people's best result in this, or actual most likely winner?

          Or both, of course!


          I think he's the forum favourite, would he go off favourite?

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
            Is JWM people's best result in this, or actual most likely winner?

            Or both, of course!


            I think he's the forum favourite, would he go off favourite?
            I just can't get over that image of Minella Crooner closing on him over the last 1/2 furlong over Christmas. I think that extra 3f will suit Crooner down to the ground. That being said, Crooner is messy earlier in the race so your money would get a safer ride on JWM in the van.

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            • With this race looking an open renewal this year I started to look at the full entries, on finding Shantreusse trained by Henry and is the only other entry for the race he as other that JWM I had a good look.

              He is entered on Thursday at Clonmel for the Surehaul Mercedes Benz hurdle G3 a race on Saxon's planning diary. A good pointer for a Bartlet Henry horse in the past.

              The horse clearly stays well and with decent bumper form over 2ml and then moved to Henry's where he ran a nice first time up race over 2.5ml against Mr. Fred Rogers who is also a runner on Thursday again. Shantreusse very much looked after in the race imo.
              Last time out was a nice win over 3ml jumping really well, winning easy when the danger fell at the last but would have won anyway imo. They were clear of the rest.
              A good run and win on Thursday against a 132 rated Mr. Fred Rogers just may put him in the picture for the Bartlet, with 40/1 for the brave available and NRNB of 33/1 available at the moment for me is a bet for the race.

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              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                Is JWM people's best result in this, or actual most likely winner?

                Or both, of course!


                I think he's the forum favourite, would he go off favourite?
                I would say he’s peoples best result for sure… not sure he’s my most likely winner.. but at the same time I don’t know who is. Based on his last run he surely has a better chance in this than the Bally tho!

                Feels like Henry may have made plans based on Gerri coming here… so that may all now change.

                on an unrelated note Kev, I was down your ends on Sunday and visited ‘Street’. It’s no almost famous but not a bad one to have on your doorstep!

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                • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                  I just can't get over that image of Minella Crooner closing on him over the last 1/2 furlong over Christmas. I think that extra 3f will suit Crooner down to the ground. That being said, Crooner is messy earlier in the race so your money would get a safer ride on JWM in the van.
                  Race fitness (crooner had edge), stable form (HDB terrible at Xmas), greenness in front (also ran green last time) plausible reasons why that may not be repeated.

                  That said, it could just be that connections no longer think jwm is a stayer which is why he seems destined elsewhere.

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                  • Is minella crooner always going to be running on into a place would be my question on him

                    Ala fakiera

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                    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                      Is JWM people's best result in this, or actual most likely winner?

                      Or both, of course!


                      I think he's the forum favourite, would he go off favourite?
                      Definitely the Forum , or being completely blunt ..should I say pocket fav. If he wasn't in so many peoples bets he wouldn't get a tenth of the air time.

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                      • With Ginto and JWM looking Balleymoore bound, I'm not too convinced about a winner coming from the top end of the market. Take out Ginto and JWM and then you're looking at 3 Elliot Horses, the fav and third fav who have been beaten a few times already. This is also a race that Elliot has never won. He's gone close and he will surely win it one day, but at the moment as it still stands he has never won this race.

                        I still think Classic Getaway is overpriced at 20/1 nrnb with Bet365 (10/1 with Paddies). Personally I don't think he has done much wrong, he lost his first hurdle race against Cash Back a 141 rated hurdler and 156 rated over fences who was having his 12th career race and has been mixing it with the big boys. I was actually looking at the horse he beat who was 3rd by 85 lenghts and was having his 6th career race. Personally I don't think anything else in the betting would have beaten Cash Back first time out.

                        He then beat a lot more experienced horses next time out at a trip that suited them more. It took Mullins a lot longer to get him out compared to a few of his others stable stars and I think this horse really needs a step up in trip and we will see a much better horse. I still think he's a good bet in this race along with Hillcrest compared to some at the top end.

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                        • Gerri Colombe scratched from this and Ballymore by the looks of 365 markets

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                          • Originally posted by TiggerRoll View Post
                            Gerri Colombe scratched from this and Ballymore by the looks of 365 markets
                            Confirmed earlier today

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                            • If Henry De Bromhead doesn't switch Journey With Me back toward the bartlett now Gerri Colmbe is not any sort of issue (if he ever was)
                              He's a fucking idiot.
                              Nothing to do with my bets, it would just be a bizarre decision especially if Ginto goes Ballymore along with one of Mullins 2. If Ginto goes Bartlett then fair enough.
                              Without Ginto, your favourite is Minella Crooner, with Hollow Games & Cocooner up there too.
                              Surely this would look a winnable race for a galloper like him given the form.

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                              • Just taken 14/1 JWM for this.
                                Either heading here or injured if his Ballymore price is anything to go by…

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