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2022 Albert Bartlett Novices Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

    I think you have to give him his chance in a grade 1 3 mile race before you drop him to a handicap personally.
    He isnt going to the Pipe, he is a stayer, whos best run was over 2M6F+ on his hurdles debut, where he got going in that late on

    He's been a little tapped for toe both times over 2M4F now.
    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • Originally posted by Altior View Post

      Jack is just giddy that he looks a future gold cup horse!
      I joke here, but upon watching the interview he seems very sweet on him for the further trip, which is a lot as Jack isn't the most animated by any means.

      I'm still thinking HG definitely needs 3 for certain whereas Ginto could do both, which means the latter will go to the Neptune.

      Going back to previous ten years or so, 3 horses won the Lawlors and went to the Bartlett, the latest of those being Death Duty in 2017, who looked done for stamina in the Bartlett and never became the stayer they'd hoped.

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      • Saxon is correct , clear as day Hollow Games needs 3m , he is competitive over 2m4f at the top class, over 3m he could be so much better ,

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        • Nah, your pipe nag is kilcruit

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          • Originally posted by The Fellow View Post
            Saxon is correct , clear as day Hollow Games needs 3m , he is competitive over 2m4f at the top class, over 3m he could be so much better ,
            Yup agreed. But not sure he’d be better than Ginto on that showing. One potential mark up could be that he got squeezed against the rail coming into the home stretch and lost a bit of momentum.

            I’m hovering over the cash out for Hollow
            Games whilst Bet365 are so short on him. Unless he goes to the DRF and wins the 2m6f novice hurdle, I can’t see him going off shorter on the day and I’m not convinced he’s got the beating of Ginto.

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            • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

              Yup agreed. But not sure he’d be better than Ginto on that showing. One potential mark up could be that he got squeezed against the rail coming into the home stretch and lost a bit of momentum.

              I’m hovering over the cash out for Hollow
              Games whilst Bet365 are so short on him. Unless he goes to the DRF and wins the 2m6f novice hurdle, I can’t see him going off shorter on the day and I’m not convinced he’s got the beating of Ginto.
              Journey With Me will win the 2M6F at the DRF.
              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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              • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                He isnt going to the Pipe, he is a stayer, whos best run was over 2M6F+ on his hurdles debut, where he got going in that late on

                He's been a little tapped for toe both times over 2M4F now.
                Martin Pipe is more often than not won by boats.
                The conditionals go too fast and the stayers win the race.

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                • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                  Journey With Me will win the 2M6F at the DRF.
                  Thanks Saxon. Enjoying your certainty FWIW I agree. He’s the horse I fancy for the AB at this stage.

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                    Whoever tipped him for the Albert Bartlett at 25/1, saying he'll beat Eric Bloodaxe at the weekend, then go on to beat his stablemate in the Lawlors on Naas, must be some judge jono Spectre
                    And everyone will thank you when he goes for the Ballymore and no one can even cash out their AB bets for him

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                    • Hollow Games is going to the DRF, so we'll see how he runs and he'll either be in the AB, or a handicap

                      Ginto straight to Cheltenham.

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                        • From that i'd say AB looks the likeliest for Ginto doesn't it?! I'd much rather he went Ballymore, but Gordons preference before today was AB, Jacks after today sounds like it was AB... Suppose it depends on how you choose to listen to it and how much pull Jack has. Clear as mud all this
                          Last edited by Atlantic Viking; 2 January 2022, 03:25 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                            Hollow Games is going to the DRF, so we'll see how he runs and he'll either be in the AB, or a handicap

                            Ginto straight to Cheltenham.
                            If theyre going for the AB, he'll probably run in the 2m 6f and clash with JWM I feel like

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                            • Just watched the race back. For me, the majority of those today behind the winner were out and out Stayers so IMO it was more of an Albert trial as opposed to Ballymore.

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                              • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post

                                If theyre going for the AB, he'll probably run in the 2m 6f and clash with JWM I feel like
                                Yep, should be another couple of good uns in it too...

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