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Given Robcour have a horse that came second in the most prominent Irish trial for the Ballymore (Grand Jury) and are aiming JWM at the most prominent Irish trial for the Albert Bartlett, if JWM goes Ballymore based on that GC performance, he's either a dud (which could be true in a week), or Robcour and HDB need their heads checking. Switching him like that based on all the evidence we have makes absolutely zero sense.
Nothing a done deal until post-DRF you’d have thought but I’d take that as a + for Ginto heading to the Ballymore. Hardly going to run 3 here and nothing there surely?
Could be four here if he was to send ginto here too, to go along with gerri, hollow games and minella crooner, so i'd say its odds on ginto goes to the ballymore at the moment, but a lot can still change.
Literally never seen it either. Some just obsessed on here with getting JWM in the Ballymore it would seem.
Grand Jury/JWM comparison is the one, nothing to do with where GC goes, IMO.
It's here. Not obsessed with him going Ballymore at all. Covered for both races . I'd flip that and say more people are obsessed with him going Albert. I do understand that though as that's the way most have bet but it just does not work that way. The trainer/owners don't care who has backed him and for which race.
Given Robcour have a horse that came second in the most prominent Irish trial for the Ballymore (Grand Jury) and are aiming JWM at the most prominent Irish trial for the Albert Bartlett, if JWM goes Ballymore based on that GC performance, he's either a dud (which could be true in a week), or Robcour and HDB need their heads checking. Switching him like that based on all the evidence we have makes absolutely zero sense.
Thats just it.......no one has been 'switched' anywhere yet. Nothing has been finalised for either GJ or JWM yet. They both have important races coming up which will settle any issues. One piece of the jigsaw has been solved fir Robcour though and that is Gerri Colombe to the Albert. The original Robcour 'plan' quoted several times on here was GJ to Supreme, GC to Ballymore and JWM to Albert. That has now changed. What does that mean going forward?.........it'll soon be revealed.
Thats just it.......no one has been 'switched' anywhere yet. Nothing has been finalised for either GJ or JWM yet. They both have important races coming up which will settle any issues. One piece of the jigsaw has been solved fir Robcour though and that is Gerri Colombe to the Albert. The original Robcour 'plan' quoted several times on here was GJ to Supreme, GC to Ballymore and JWM to Albert. That has now changed. What does that mean going forward?.........it'll soon be revealed.
Oh I agree that nothing has been finalised.
My point is purely that as we stand, the JWM plan appears to be AB and there's no reason for that to change unless he bombs out at DRF and it's even less likely to change if he doesn't go DRF as they seem more than happy to send GC there off two lower grade novice hurdle runs so why not JWM as well? For me, the most likely outcome now is GJ Bally, GC and JWM Bartlett. Nothing about what happened today makes JWM more likely to go to the Ballymore, what happens next week could, but it would surprise me as if he under performs, Robcour appear to be in a position where he just doesn't NEED to go to the festival - which btw would be horrible for my book!
Not a good jumper is he? There’s no way he should influence the target of JWM, if he’s not ahead of GC in the pecking order then neither of them are going to be winning.
Cant believe there's so much negativity about GC really, very tight track which a proper stayer would hate and on ground as quick as he'd want it. He was never guna be winning on the bridle was he? and even as a stayer you wouldn't want him to be sprinting away from them.
Gordon's said straight to the bartlett now and he'd have a cracking EW chance in it for me and anyone on 33/1 tickets must be pretty happy.
Gerri looks around the 140 mark, even though he won't get a mark. 10-15lbs to find to get competitive and no obvious reason to expect that after today's evidence.
If he does go straight to Cheltenham like Elliott says, then he has a fair bit to find and it doesn't help that he is so slow to get his front legs up when jumping as well.
And Elliot's comments regarding why he didn't go to Dublin should really apply to Cheltenham as well, as he still looks like he needs more experience.
No doubt he'll keep plugging away as he looks daft, but I'd be very surprised personally if he's up to winning a reasonable standard grade 1.
His price is also dogshit.
He's a 16-1 shot at best.
Cant believe there's so much negativity about GC really, very tight track which a proper stayer would hate and on ground as quick as he'd want it. He was never guna be winning on the bridle was he? and even as a stayer you wouldn't want him to be sprinting away from them.
Gordon's said straight to the bartlett now and he'd have a cracking EW chance in it for me and anyone on 33/1 tickets must be pretty happy.
If he's to be winning a grade 1 novice hurdle he should be beating those horses a lot easier than he did
A lot lot easier imo
If he were mine I'd be now aiming at the punchestown grade 1 and looking to give him some more experience at grade 3/2 level
If he's to be winning a grade 1 novice hurdle he should be beating those horses a lot easier than he did
A lot lot easier imo
If he were mine I'd be now aiming at the punchestown grade 1 and looking to give him some more experience at grade 3/2 level
I'd agree I would prefer him to have another run prior but if Gordon's happy for him to go straight there I'll not be too disgruntled at being on him at 33s for the race if the ground is on the soft side.
Also agree that 10s is too short, but I'm not sure many people are jumping on him on here at that price?
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