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2022 Albert Bartlett Novices Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by That Horse View Post
    Gordon - probably AB but thinks horse has more speed than has been shown so far.

    Davy - the horse is versatile distance wise
    Noel Moran - probably AB

    What else would Gordon have to come here, Ginto?
    Yeah I think Ginto.

    I'm tempted to back him as well, they may even meet on the way to sort themselves out.

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
      It'd need to be heavy in March and the race looking weaker for them to even consider it I reckon.
      Gordon might not want to run at Limerick over 3 again at xmas, after what happened with farouk last year.
      and the lawlors is perfectly placed if you don't want to run in dublin and go straight to cheltenham.
      Yes, he does nothing fast, and gets better as the race gets longer.

      Those Grade 3 (or less) quality horses surrounded him coming in the straight, and he definitely didn’t quicken away from them on the snaff, he gradually lengthened clear over most of the last 2 furlongs.

      I imagine he would look a quality stayer when surrounded by Mullins horses in the Naas Grade 1, whether he won it or not.

      It would have to be Willie Wumpkins weather to consider him a better bet in the Ballymore than the Bartlett.

      Anyone making a book would have him in both (particularly as we haven’t seen anything from WPM yet) and anyone who doesn’t want to have a full book on races, will probably have picked the Bartlett.


      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

        Yeah I think Ginto.

        I'm tempted to back him as well, they may even meet on the way to sort themselves out.
        Def worth with cashout at 25s plus….tho sounded more of deep ground horse in stable tour, which Fri usually isn’t
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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          Yeah I think Ginto.

          I'm tempted to back him as well, they may even meet on the way to sort themselves out.
          Yeah I think Ginto.

          I'm tempted to back him as well, they may even meet on the way to sort themselves out.[/QUOTE]

          Def worth with cashout at 25s plus….tho sounded more of deep ground horse in stable tour, which Fri usually isn’t
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          • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post

            Yeah I think Ginto.

            I'm tempted to back him as well, they may even meet on the way to sort themselves out.
            Def worth with cashout at 25s plus….tho sounded more of deep ground horse in stable tour, which Fri usually isn’t[/QUOTE]

            How about the deep ground double hg Bally at 33 and ginto AB 25

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            • Requested a price for Life in the Park for this race last night:

              B365 & Sly 33s
              PP were 66s if you did the dial a bet.

              The horse fell when clear at the last in his p2p (albeit plenty of casualties in the race) and the eventual winner of that race then bolted up in a bumper for Gordon. Owner had success in this race with Minella Indo and is against a promising horse today in Hunters Yarn.

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              • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                Requested a price for Life in the Park for this race last night:

                B365 & Sly 33s
                PP were 66s if you did the dial a bet.

                The horse fell when clear at the last in his p2p (albeit plenty of casualties in the race) and the eventual winner of that race then bolted up in a bumper for Gordon. Owner had success in this race with Minella Indo and is against a promising horse today in Hunters Yarn.
                I am very interested in him. However do you think this is the trip for him? Based on breeding I would think shorter would be better. All of his Dams children have run at 2 1/2 or less and his Damn also never raced beyond 2.1m. Walk in the Palk also is more known for his faster horses i.e Douvan and Min. He did win a P2P but so did Shishkin etc and it was on good round.

                I might be inclined to back him in the Ballymore over this with HDB also having JWM for the Albert Bartlett

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                • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                  I am very interested in him. However do you think this is the trip for him? Based on breeding I would think shorter would be better. All of his Dams children have run at 2 1/2 or less and his Damn also never raced beyond 2.1m. Walk in the Palk also is more known for his faster horses i.e Douvan and Min. He did win a P2P but so did Shishkin etc and it was on good round.

                  I might be inclined to back him in the Ballymore over this with HDB also having JWM for the Albert Bartlett
                  Not going to lie WTL, I'm not clued up into the breeding side of things but would it not be unusual for a horse to start out over 2m5 1/2 and then come back in trip :/ ? Although the ground is good to yielding so maybe won't matter as much. Possibly just a watching brief

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                  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                    Not going to lie WTL, I'm not clued up into the breeding side of things but would it not be unusual for a horse to start out over 2m5 1/2 and then come back in trip :/ ? Although the ground is good to yielding so maybe won't matter as much. Possibly just a watching brief
                    Todays trip is pretty much the same as the Ballymore (2m5) so only 1/2 a furlong off on good ground so its not much difference. The best thing to do maybe is back him in both with 365 at 40/1 and 33/1 then evaluate the situation after the race. You can then cash one out (or possibly both if he doesn't win)

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                    • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                      I am very interested in him. However do you think this is the trip for him? Based on breeding I would think shorter would be better. All of his Dams children have run at 2 1/2 or less and his Damn also never raced beyond 2.1m. Walk in the Palk also is more known for his faster horses i.e Douvan and Min. He did win a P2P but so did Shishkin etc and it was on good round.

                      I might be inclined to back him in the Ballymore over this with HDB also having JWM for the Albert Bartlett
                      Yeah, I agree.

                      He looked quick enough and would have posted a decent time had he not fallen in his p2p.

                      Click here for the p2p

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        Yeah, I agree.

                        He looked quick enough and would have posted a decent time had he not fallen in his p2p.

                        Click here for the p2p
                        …LiP 27-1 TWAR with Hills boost (only 20-1 to win today & a/r with Sky).

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                        • Originally posted by Eggs View Post

                          …LiP 27-1 TWAR with Hills boost (only 20-1 to win today & a/r with Sky).
                          Yeah, I got the Sky bet requested, awful odds though!

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                            Yeah, I got the Sky bet requested, awful odds though!
                            I've requested Sky to add him for today & Ballymore... just gone up on site, 50/1.

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                            • Great win for Bayoffreedom Freedom to dream there off a long layoff - that Appreciate It form made him a shoe in

                              Life in the Park stayed on well after being outpaced, 3m will suit him better I'd have thought.

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                              • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                                Great win for Bayoffreedom Freedom to dream there off a long layoff - that Appreciate It form made him a shoe in

                                Life in the Park stayed on well after being outpaced, 3m will suit him better I'd have thought.
                                Yeah maybe so, though being so keen I think he will burn himself out, which will affect him from competing at the business end of races currently

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