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Probably, but he’s came out late for whatever reason, and this is where we are.
Hes interesting, and could be anything.
That’s it really.
Ive parted with some cash to find out how good he is, others won’t and I totally understand that.
I suppose I feel he can't be anything, as he'd be campaigned like a proper horse if he was going to be top, top notch....
However he could easily be a player I admit, he has looked good.
The Spring Juvenile Hurdle saw Vauban get rave reviews for seeing off the previously unbeaten Fil Dor. While it was undoubtedly a classy performance, was I the only one that wasn’t overly impressed with his jumping? His technique was average at best and he consistently jumped out to his right. The new course at Cheltenham doesn’t punish such a tendency as much as other left-handed tracks will, but it couldn’t be considered ideal.
Would prefer to see him campaigned like when he knows he has a good'un though? Like with Allmankind?
In This World was getting that campaign Kev because they thought he was the better of the two. Doctor Parnassus isn't as quick as In This World and will be a future stayer which and a Triumph can often suit at this stage.
It's often hard to get a comparative line on the Irish horses, but I know where they thought they potentially were with Fil Dor because of the French form, and they thought In This World would beat that one in the Triumph.
They do like him, and I think hopeful would be the best way to describe the thoughts on Parnassus.
Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.
The Spring Juvenile Hurdle saw Vauban get rave reviews for seeing off the previously unbeaten Fil Dor. While it was undoubtedly a classy performance, was I the only one that wasn’t overly impressed with his jumping? His technique was average at best and he consistently jumped out to his right. The new course at Cheltenham doesn’t punish such a tendency as much as other left-handed tracks will, but it couldn’t be considered ideal.
I read that as a negative for not having Vauban on side. He beat Fil Dor easily whilst not jumping well, and the Triumph will be run on a track more forgiving of poor jumping ...
In This World was getting that campaign Kev because they thought he was the better of the two. Doctor Parnassus isn't as quick as In This World and will be a future stayer which and a Triumph can often suit at this stage.
It's often hard to get a comparative line on the Irish horses, but I know where they thought they potentially were with Fil Dor because of the French form, and they thought In This World would beat that one in the Triumph.
They do like him, and I think hopeful would be the best way to describe the thoughts on Parnassus.
I would settle for them liking him and being hopeful.
Would not really expect much more to be honest.
When I backed him after Ascot I was really hoping more than anything that he would turn up here, so nrnb was a fair option.
Looks like he runs here now so can always be a bit braver if I feel like it.
It is hard to see beyond PP and Vauban, but funny ol race this sometimes
In This World was getting that campaign Kev because they thought he was the better of the two. Doctor Parnassus isn't as quick as In This World and will be a future stayer which and a Triumph can often suit at this stage.
It's often hard to get a comparative line on the Irish horses, but I know where they thought they potentially were with Fil Dor because of the French form, and they thought In This World would beat that one in the Triumph.
They do like him, and I think hopeful would be the best way to describe the thoughts on Parnassus.
When did they take charge of him as according to Racing Post the change of trainer notification happened 17th Jan and he had his first race for DS on 22nd Jan
When did they take charge of him as according to Racing Post the change of trainer notification happened 17th Jan and he had his first race for DS on 22nd Jan
Does anyone like The Tide Turns or Icare Allen for this? On Vauban at decent prices already & think he wins but have a roll up each on these 2 that I'm going to cash this morning I think as from what I can see 1. They won't be good enough to finish ahead of Vauban/Piped Piper/Fil Dor regardless and 2. They might not come here and end up in one of the handicaps?
Does anyone like The Tide Turns or Icare Allen for this? On Vauban at decent prices already & think he wins but have a roll up each on these 2 that I'm going to cash this morning I think as from what I can see 1. They won't be good enough to finish ahead of Vauban/Piped Piper/Fil Dor regardless and 2. They might not come here and end up in one of the handicaps?
I cashed Icare Allen already. I've held on to The Tide Turns for now, but may cash him out if he gets another entry before the festival.
I think Willie has his top 2 now, in Vauban and Il Etait Temps, the latter likely to improve a fair bit for that debut run over hurdles in the Spring Juvenile, too. I think Gordon likely has his 1-2 as well, in Pied Piper & Fil Dor, the only small complication with these two are that they are owned by the same owner and therefore may just consider splitting them up, although as others have pointed out, this is probably unlikely, but not out of the question, but this is the reason I hold on to The Tide Turns currently.
I cashed Icare Allen already. I've held on to The Tide Turns for now, but may cash him out if he gets another entry before the festival.
I think Willie has his top 2 now, in Vauban and Il Etait Temps, the latter likely to improve a fair bit for that debut run over hurdles in the Spring Juvenile, too. I think Gordon likely has his 1-2 as well, in Pied Piper & Fil Dor, the only small complication with these two are that they are owned by the same owner and therefore may just consider splitting them up, although as others have pointed out, this is probably unlikely, but not out of the question, but this is the reason I hold on to The Tide Turns currently.
Thanks - agreed with everything above & summed up my thinking too, will cash them shortly & use to re-invest elsewhere...
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