2022 Triumph Hurdle

[DenmanSacre]

Something I picked up on the Racehour podcast this week:

They were saying Paul Nicholls has been interviewed in the past few days in regards to Iceo - He was asked "Is Iceo the best juvenile he's got?" and he replied "Of the ones that have run"

This reminded me of an interview with Tom Malone on the Racing Post's "What a Shout" Youtube show back in December. It was the night before the Summit Juvenile Hurdle at Doncaster (1st Knight Salute, 2nd Porticello, 3rd Too Friendly) and he was asked "If you could put your name on one of these here, which one would it be?"

He replied - "None of them because I know I have about four coming after Christmas that will kill all of them"

It's possible some of the "four" he mentioned have run since but it's also possible that there could be some crossover here between Paul's and Tom's comments, perhaps a well-regarded juvenile (or two) we're yet to see.

(Usual caveat about Nicholls and not sending juveniles to the Festival apply)

One was Irish Hill who has looked average at best the last twice.

[riccirich]

One was probably matterhorn too who has been ruled out.

[TigerRolllllll]

Something I picked up on the Racehour podcast this week:

They were saying Paul Nicholls has been interviewed in the past few days in regards to Iceo - He was asked "Is Iceo the best juvenile he's got?" and he replied "Of the ones that have run"

This reminded me of an interview with Tom Malone on the Racing Post's "What a Shout" Youtube show back in December. It was the night before the Summit Juvenile Hurdle at Doncaster (1st Knight Salute, 2nd Porticello, 3rd Too Friendly) and he was asked "If you could put your name on one of these here, which one would it be?"

He replied - "None of them because I know I have about four coming after Christmas that will kill all of them"

It's possible some of the "four" he mentioned have run since but it's also possible that there could be some crossover here between Paul's and Tom's comments, perhaps a well-regarded juvenile (or two) we're yet to see.

(Usual caveat about Nicholls and not sending juveniles to the Festival apply)

I heard it too and they mentioned Pleasant Man

Worth adding NRNB

[Bonjers]

Malone speaks an unfathomable amount of nonsense in the main. Nicholls has Grivetana, Inca de Lafayette, Isaac des Obeaux, Pleasant Man, Killaloan, Old Gold and Rubaud still to run from his juvenile ranks.

[TigerRolllllll]

Malone speaks an unfathomable amount of nonsense in the main. Nicholls has Grivetana, Inca de Lafayette, Isaac des Obeaux, Pleasant Man, Killaloan, Old Gold and Rubaud still to run from his juvenile ranks.

Assume if he does have one, then will be entered in Adonis....and can back then

[darlojim]

Am I mad to think before tomorrow it MAY be pricing up:

Pied Piper Triumph
Fil Dor boodles

NRNB

[Rooster Booster]

The quick ground could be a big issue for PP. I'll be on IDS on the day at the prices.

Both the jockey and the trainer of Interne have stated he prefers soft ground...

[Lobos]

Both the jockey and the trainer of Interne have stated he prefers soft ground...

Have to respect that but he won over C/D last time off a slow pace on ground the soft side of good so he's likely imo to handle the quicker conditions tomorrow.

[Lobos]

I assumed you meant Iberique du Seuil when I saw your message Lobos, only when I read the comment you responded to did I twig.
Iberique du Seuil looks certain to be heading to the Fred Winter and goes there with a huge chance for me...

Agree totally Ista. The way his season has panned out you have to say he looks nailed on for the Boodles. I'll deffo back him EW on the day with the additional place offers as he'd be a decent price and as you say he has a serious chance.

[charlie]

Am I mad to think before tomorrow it MAY be pricing up:

Pied Piper Triumph
Fil Dor boodles

NRNB

No you are not, PP was out this morning and the ground will be no issue.

[Kevloaf]

Just thinking out loud in my diary but thought worth mentioning here...... Iceo at 10/1 NRNB BOG

If Iceo wins tomorrow, he's beaten the ante post 4th fav and turned over the 'fav' on the day, and that gives him the beating of Vauban no matter how much you want to mark Vauban up.

If he loses, being an Paul Nicholls horse, just no feckin way he sends him for the sake of it?

So 10/1 NRNB for Iceo actually makes a lot of sense doesn't it?


He's either half that at very best, or doesn't run.... You could easily lay off your stake for a free bet too if he does run.

I think it's risk free

[Lobos]

PP v IDS tomorrow will give us a good insight into the Irish v Top English horse (Knights Salute). IDS beat Yorksea by 5 1/2 lengths last time and that horse Previously ran 3rd on debut beaten 3 lengths to Knights Salute (both races at Cheltenham). Yorksea has since come out and won easily by 21 lengths so the form is Rock solid.

[isitmarchyet]

Had a bit of the 50/1 NRNB for Vadaly in this with Sky. No idea if she'll actually run in the Spring Juvenile next week, but a decent run and she could be cut a fair bit. If not, she probably won't go. Best price NRNB that I can see, 365 only 28s and Hills 33s. Seems fairly low risk.

She only needs two more runs for a potential Boodles run and there's the Mares Novice too, so hardly clear-cut though.

[charlie]

Had a bit of the 50/1 NRNB for Vadaly in this with Sky. No idea if she'll actually run in the Spring Juvenile next week, but a decent run and she could be cut a fair bit. If not, she probably won't go. Best price NRNB that I can see, 365 only 28s and Hills 33s. Seems fairly low risk.

She only needs two more runs for a potential Boodles run and there's the Mares Novice too, so hardly clear-cut though.

Impossible to knock 50/1 NRNB this late in the season, literally, on any bet. They either do enough and earn their position and you have value, or dont, and you get the cash back. Its actually a really good time to swing at big NRNB prices

[Kevloaf]

Late money seems to be for Pied Piper....

Looking forward to this race!