2022 Mares Novices Hurdle

[Kevloaf]

Red flag bet I’d say

Probably. Already restricted with Sky myself though so feck 'em.

[Rooster Booster]

And they still managed to get some stick on here for it.

Don't get me wrong, my personal opinion is that no trainer/owner owes anyone in the betting public anything at all but my god they get so much more respect from me when they do provide information in a timely manner. (Or even simpler, they just don't lie through their teeth...)

Yes it’s incredible how conditioned we have become to lies , misinformation and denials that regular open and timely communication is celebrated.

[Rooster Booster]

Probably. Already restricted with Sky myself though so feck 'em.

Yes I was trying to flag the possibility to folks that value their account with them.

[ToniC]

What a huge surprise with connections!

The Ferny news was broken by CPS. Proper people.

The drift Friday doesn’t even bother me. Par for the course id say and fair enough, expect nothing else. Giving an update saying the horse is fine, when it’s clearly not, is the move of a total ****

[Quevega]

Did Dave Yates quote his source ?
He's always come across as a clueless twat to me.
And I've seen him on preview nights talking absolute bollocks, not opinion bollocks, factual bollocks.

It appears that they found something minor with her but she seemed fine enough - but as is routine, they have done the checks/scans anyway, and found a bone chip.
This may take a few days to establish and then they need to decide if she is fine to run with it or needs time.
This sort of think is entirely normal and the final decision is not going to be minutes after spotting any issue with the animal. In some cases it will be days as the issue is more complicated and not a no brainer like an open fracture.

People need to get real.

We had a small trainer with Porlock Bay who's had the horse on a breathing machine for a few days, only tell people he's bot going to cheltenham after the entries come out without him in it.
This is worse.

[AnFiieLD.]

Ricci racing manager joins the Nick Luck podcast and discusses the timelines on it for those interested:
https://twitter.com/nickluck/status/...219533825?s=21

[Quevega]

Ricci racing manager joins the Nick Luck podcast and discusses the timelines on it for those interested:
https://twitter.com/nickluck/status/...219533825?s=21

Cheers for that,
probably worth listening to for some as it explains how tricky a situation it is.
And apologies to Dave on this occasions as it looks like he probably wasn't given all the details by mr chambers.
Or didn't ask the right questions.

[Benjy23]

Absolute madness when this repeatedly happens with the same connections and people still make excuses for it. Each to their own though of course.

[Odin]

We had a small trainer with Porlock Bay who's had the horse on a breathing machine for a few days, only tell people he's bot going to cheltenham after the entries come out without him in it.
This is worse.

Yep that's fair

[Rooster Booster]

Did Dave Yates quote his source ?
He's always come across as a clueless twat to me.
And I've seen him on preview nights talking absolute bollocks, not opinion bollocks, factual bollocks.

It appears that they found something minor with her but she seemed fine enough - but as is routine, they have done the checks/scans anyway, and found a bone chip.
This may take a few days to establish and then they need to decide if she is fine to run with it or needs time.
This sort of think is entirely normal and the final decision is not going to be minutes after spotting any issue with the animal. In some cases it will be days as the issue is more complicated and not a no brainer like an open fracture.

People need to get real.

We had a small trainer with Porlock Bay who's had the horse on a breathing machine for a few days, only tell people he's bot going to cheltenham after the entries come out without him in it.
This is worse.

Yes but he also said he was very disappointed in the horses last run and the feel he got from the horse and some folks on here disagreed....clearly he was correct and was giving people a VERY early heads up. As soon as I read his after race comment I chose to keep my money in my pocket whereas others dismissed what he said. This is a choice, he was telling the truth and others thought they knew better and were wrong.

[Quevega]

Yes but he also said he was very disappointed in the horses last run and the feel he got from the horse and some folks on here disagreed....clearly he was correct and was giving people a VERY early heads up. As soon as I read his after race comment I chose to keep my money in my pocket whereas others dismissed what he said. This is a choice, he was telling the truth and others thought they knew better and were wrong.

Yeah I read that.
And it was hard to distinguish what he was saying, because he mentioned the horse didn't seem to stay, but he clearly felt the horse wasn't on his best form,
But yesterdays announcement after decs was worse, as it appears clear they knew they had found an issue and were treating it and were not going to enter him.

To be fair, they may have only just decided on the non entry at the very last minute for all I know (although it didn't sound like it), but I made the point to highlight how tricky these things can be and obviously Mullins has probably the most horses in training, so lameness and issues will arise on a daily basis for his yard, and most will turn out to be nothing too serious.

[Craigy14]

I really fancied her for this and I don’t really want to back anything else at the minute as the prices are well gone. For example I went with La Primma Donna against Dinoblue which obviously ended up in reverse. Dinoblue is very short for having one race, she may be that good, time will tell. WPM really seems to like her though. Brandy Love I couldn’t trust, certainly not as fav, she looks a loony and even going left handed may not be a complete fix. Then the others are a bit meh for me, bit like last year. Statuaire surely would be more confidence etc think WPM’s comments on her say it all, Grangee looked well held before falling lto, Impervious hmm could be one but I’m not convinced, well held by Statuaire. Just think WPM will win it, that might seem boring but he’ll want to having lost it last year.

Hors Piste might be one to move onto, will have a think.

[KevMc]

Dinoblue pisses up.

[cascade12]

I really fancied her for this and I don’t really want to back anything else at the minute as the prices are well gone. For example I went with La Primma Donna against Dinoblue which obviously ended up in reverse. Dinoblue is very short for having one race, she may be that good, time will tell. WPM really seems to like her though. Brandy Love I couldn’t trust, certainly not as fav, she looks a loony and even going left handed may not be a complete fix. Then the others are a bit meh for me, bit like last year. Statuaire surely would be more confidence etc think WPM’s comments on her say it all, Grangee looked well held before falling lto, Impervious hmm could be one but I’m not convinced, well held by Statuaire. Just think WPM will win it, that might seem boring but he’ll want to having lost it last year.

Hors Piste might be one to move onto, will have a think.

I would not agree that Grangee was beaten at the time she fell. Cooper said after the race he had the front few covered. She can take a bit of stoking up but has a good finishing kick and the likely better ground will make her a leading contender.

[Rooster Booster]

Yeah I read that.
And it was hard to distinguish what he was saying, because he mentioned the horse didn't seem to stay, but he clearly felt the horse wasn't on his best form,
But yesterdays announcement after decs was worse, as it appears clear they knew they had found an issue and were treating it and were not going to enter him.

To be fair, they may have only just decided on the non entry at the very last minute for all I know (although it didn't sound like it), but I made the point to highlight how tricky these things can be and obviously Mullins has probably the most horses in training, so lameness and issues will arise on a daily basis for his yard, and most will turn out to be nothing too serious.

Right but he also said he ran below par and they were going to give him ‘a good look over’ ...surely that is enough to raise a very early flag to people thinking of backing him. Also recognising he rode him and often rides him so would know more than anyone how the horse felt...so he was criticised originally for incorrectly downplaying the horses performance and now he has been proven right he is criticised for not saying something sooner. Maybe we are a tough crowd to please at times.