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2022 Stayers Hurdle

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  • #46
    Originally posted by opatcho View Post
    I'd take that from Mrs Milner today
    Tactical race, still came around from the field. Still happy with 66/1
    Hills being crooks, chopped into 20/1
    Sky still offering 50/1
    Forgot she was even running!! Just watched it back. Did it very nicely. Looks to have improved again from last season. The Stayers must be on the agenda. Another Mare taking Grade 1 honours.........it's getting ridiculous now. A nice 66/1 shot to have in the bag. Who's next then?.........oh yes.........the Munster chase. Loads of Cheltenham pointers today. Can't keep up with it !

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    • #47
      Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
      Mrs Milner cut from 66/1 into 25's with Willy Hill after winning.

      50's still with SkyBet if anyone is interested.
      Sky into 25's now as well

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      • #48
        Paul Nolan on Racing TV still undecided if Latest Exhibition will stay over fences or not as the chasing division is so strong. Paddy's have cut him to 14s for the Stayers but B365 are 33s.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Lobos View Post
          Lol.... who's Nolan avoiding this year then?!?
          They need to create a festival for these pussies to run their horses like Nolan, Skelton and Nicholls ……oh wait it’s called aintree

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          • #50
            Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
            Paul Nolan on Racing TV still undecided if Latest Exhibition will stay over fences or not as the chasing division is so strong. Paddy's have cut him to 14s for the Stayers but B365 are 33s.
            You have to be kidding me!
            Nothing wrong with Latest Exhibition's ability over fences, he bumped into a damn good one who is no longer on the radar this season
            FFS

            Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

            They need to create a festival for these pussies to run their horses like Nolan, Skelton and Nicholls ……oh wait it’s called aintree
            Excuses.... after excuses
            Nolan didnt want to bump into Monkfish again, well.... he wont now given Monkfish is out for the season. Instead of continuing with LE route to the GC, he'd rather stick him back over hurdles. WTF

            LE is pretty much my primary GC AP selection, and really liked his profile. So annoying to hear defeatism so early in the season

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            • #51
              I have to say sending LE back over hurdles would be complete cowardice.

              his only failing was being unable to beat the pre eminent horse of the division, who has now been ruled out. You should be licking your Lips ffs

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              • #52
                Owner must also agree but if I owned LE I would move it for the sake of its career.

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                • #53


                  Twitter (https://twitter.com/theracingjosh/st...971592704?s=21)
                  Joshua Stacey
                  Paisley Park schooled over fences again on Friday morning. Nothing confirmed yet, but clearly being heavily considered.

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                  • #54
                    Paisley Park over fences makes me laugh
                    Cant imaging him running well on the sharper track in the RSA, no chance
                    Straight to the GC as a novice? Behave....

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by robith View Post
                      I have to say sending LE back over hurdles would be complete cowardice.

                      his only failing was being unable to beat the pre eminent horse of the division, who has now been ruled out. You should be licking your Lips ffs
                      Thats a bit harsh Robith! At 8 going on 9 improvement is unlikely and despite being by Oscar LE doesn't appear to want marathon trips. That puts them between a rock and a hard place IMO. Do they run a chaser that looks limited to mid 150's level into top seasoned 160+ chasers and repeatedly bang their head against wall as they did with Monkfish, or do they look for an 'easier' campaign. I know it looks a bit cowardly, but its important to remember that Paul Nolan has 3 horses rated over 140 - thats a far cry from the big three in Ireland and if Paul thinks mid 150's is LE's ceiling, then why wouldn't he look to capitalise on a weaker looking hurdle division with so much prize money up for grabs? That prize money could help sustain the future of the stable for all we know, so theres more to think about here. Flooring Porter won more last season than most the GC runners last year combined!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by charlie View Post

                        Thats a bit harsh Robith! At 8 going on 9 improvement is unlikely and despite being by Oscar LE doesn't appear to want marathon trips. That puts them between a rock and a hard place IMO. Do they run a chaser that looks limited to mid 150's level into top seasoned 160+ chasers and repeatedly bang their head against wall as they did with Monkfish, or do they look for an 'easier' campaign. I know it looks a bit cowardly, but its important to remember that Paul Nolan has 3 horses rated over 140 - thats a far cry from the big three in Ireland and if Paul thinks mid 150's is LE's ceiling, then why wouldn't he look to capitalise on a weaker looking hurdle division with so much prize money up for grabs? That prize money could help sustain the future of the stable for all we know, so theres more to think about here. Flooring Porter won more last season than most the GC runners last year combined!
                        Surely they need to run him over fences against the best chasers before they decide he isn't good enough. If he does then get well beat then go back to hurdles for the rest of the season, to give up before being given the chance is poor.

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                        • #57
                          I hope Latest Exhibition goes for the stayers. I think his fencing lacks scope and his heart & class kept him in races despite this. He was excellent in his novice hurdles season when closely matched with Monkfish & Thyme Hill.

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                          • #58
                            I’d be questioning the heart and class of the trainer

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by opatcho View Post
                              Paisley Park over fences makes me laugh
                              Cant imaging him running well on the sharper track in the RSA, no chance
                              Straight to the GC as a novice? Behave....
                              Yep! I thought he’d dominate the stayers division after his 2019 win. Hasn’t quite happened. And now it’s a case of him not being quite as good as he was and throwing the dice with a chasing campaign late in the day. At 9 years I wouldn’t go near him.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by taylorch1990 View Post

                                Surely they need to run him over fences against the best chasers before they decide he isn't good enough. If he does then get well beat then go back to hurdles for the rest of the season, to give up before being given the chance is poor.
                                Why surely? Paul said there are probably better chasers out there and he is more qualified than you or I to give that view. PN will know what he has on his hands and is hardly gonna pass up a GC chance lightly, it wouldn’t make any sense. Easy for people to say ‘poor’ without considering variables they’re completely in the dark to. You haven’t seen him schooling. He might be making mistakes at his fences in which case a run over fences and risking the stable star would be the height of stupidity. He could have a residual injury that’s less likely to be aggregated jumping hurdles than fences. He could be much less enthusiastic than he once was and doesn’t show them much over fences at home, etc etc.

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