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2022 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

    You'd have probably said the same in 2020?

    It's almost like you're not aware he's won the race before tbh
    I was referring to royal kahala and home by the Lee, the two I mentioned in the post you replied to

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    • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

      I was referring to royal kahala and home by the Lee, the two I mentioned in the post you replied to
      Oh right, apologies. My point in the above was that LO must have been basically a mid 140s horse (at best) for his whole career apart from when he won this race though.

      Although now he obviously has a fair bit more in the form book going for him than the others mentioned.

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      • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

        Oh right, apologies. My point in the above was that LO must have been basically a mid 140s horse (at best) for his whole career apart from when he won this race though.
        He was

        But that was the worst stayers hurdle I can remember and Richard Johnson turned it into a boat race riding apples jade like she was in the champion hurdle

        This race has 4 160+ horses in it so it's gonna be extremely tough for a mid 140s horse to win/place

        I could see a place only angle but 99/100 you're throwing half your stake away on the win half of the bet

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        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

          He was

          But that was the worst stayers hurdle I can remember and Richard Johnson turned it into a boat race riding apples jade like she was in the champion hurdle

          This race has 4 160+ horses in it so it's gonna be extremely tough for a mid 140s horse to win/place

          I could see a place only angle but 99/100 you're throwing half your stake away on the win half of the bet
          Yea, agree with the point on each way bets and usually have very few each way plays for that reason. It's just the lack of consistency from those at the top of the market that appeals here.

          Hate to go back to it again but the consistency of something like Paisley Park at the time would've probably put me off the win part of an each way in 2020.

          FP has two letters in his last three starts. KD has an unplaced effort last time, over 20lb below his previous run and a history of injuries. They just all have little doubts don't they.

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          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

            Yea, agree with the point on each way bets and usually have very few each way plays for that reason. It's just the lack of consistency from those at the top of the market that appeals here.

            Hate to go back to it again but the consistency of something like Paisley Park at the time would've probably put me off the win part of an each way in 2020.

            FP has two letters in his last three starts. KD has an unplaced effort last time, over 20lb below his previous run and a history of injuries. They just all have little doubts don't they.
            The difference is there was only paisley in 2020 and 4 good horses this year

            They surely can't all run poorly can they

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            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

              The difference is there was only paisley in 2020 and 4 good horses this year

              They surely can't all run poorly can they
              It does seem unlikely for sure. But they've all got previous for it haven't they. Quite literally none of the four even won their previous start.

              But yea, you'd like to think at least one runs close to their best though. Hopefully FP!

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              • Field for this race fairly small this year should help the two psychopaths you’d think

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                • Royal Kahala has to be a massive player here now.

                  Also, Home By The Lee on Heavy or Soft. Form reads: 2 1 1 U 1 1 3 1 2 2

                  Might have a place squeek
                  Last edited by Exar Essay; 16 March 2022, 08:06 PM.

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                  • If the ground is heavy which is looking like will be, the 2 I like is Royal Kahala, and I'm gonna do a small e/w on Koshari, Koshari is still abit of an unknown at this distance and its run well on heavy ground, won at 80/1 last time, big ask obviously but you never know.

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                    • Don't think FP or KD have any issues with proper soft ground to be honest?

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                      • I'd have thought FP would be happy enough in it tbh. Willing yo be corrected on that but has some form on bad ground.

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                        • Reckon it was pretty much heavy when he won Christmas Hurdle at Leopardstown last year?

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                          • Quite a lot of inconsistency in the field here. It will depend which of these horses actually show their best form as several are capable of winning it on their best form.

                            I rewatched Klassical Dream's Supreme on a wet and muddy day (not as bad as yesterday): a Supreme winner who stays is a potent competition. Flooring Porter has good form on soft

                            Selections: Klassical Dream, Flooring Porter
                            e/w Home by the Lee
                            Last edited by Supermaster; 17 March 2022, 10:42 AM.

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                            • Porterrrrrr

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                              • Lovely stuff, had them all at it.

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