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2022 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by OscarWhisky View Post
    I’m sure it will have been picked up elsewhere but just confirmation that Sporting John is out.

    Shame the owner didn’t pass that one on eh?!
    It featured front and centre on the RP website

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    • Indeed, just hadn’t seen it mentioned on this thread and was rather amused by some specific comments on Champ not working well but no word on a horse in the same ownership missing out completely!

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      • Because the injury to Sporting John only occured this week, Wednesday by the sounds of it and a pretty quick confirmation to the media.

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        • Originally posted by OscarWhisky View Post
          Indeed, just hadn’t seen it mentioned on this thread and was rather amused by some specific comments on Champ not working well but no word on a horse in the same ownership missing out completely!
          Do you know when Sporting John was injured?

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          • Originally posted by Irish Rugby View Post
            Because the injury to Sporting John only occured this week, Wednesday by the sounds of it and a pretty quick confirmation to the media.
            First heard on Friday lunchtime on sky racing channel, then put it on out of festival thread

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            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

              First heard on Friday lunchtime on sky racing channel, then put it on out of festival thread
              Thanks. Getting my days wrong. It gets like this when you've retired.

              Injury seems to have been Thursday or even Friday. I take it there was no walk in the exchanges prior the news being released?

              ​​​​​​In an open race, Thyme Hill seems to have become a bit forgotten about. Yet, he seems to have always been around 3rd or 4th favourite, no worse, throughout the winter.

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              • ….still think Home by the Lee offers a bit of e/w value in this @ 40-1. Trained by JoB it was just behind Royal Kahala (a general 8-1) on its last run & 10L in front of Klassical Dream despite some sloppy jumping.

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                • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                  ….still think Home by the Lee offers a bit of e/w value in this @ 40-1. Trained by JoB it was just behind Royal Kahala (a general 8-1) on its last run & 10L in front of Klassical Dream despite some sloppy jumping.
                  Surely both him and royal kahala need to improve a stone to feature in this

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                  • The top of the market all have their issues though don't they. I can see why people are looking for each way plays further down.

                    I've actually had one myself on Lisnagar Oscar He's ran basically the same in the Cleeve as he did before winning this in 2020 (3rd and RPR of 148). And he's still only 9, younger than the likes of Champ, PP, Melon etc.

                    He's far from my main play in the race but he's the one outsider I've decided to get onside.

                    StIll fancy FP if he handles the occasion and gets to the front. But the concerns are obvious. ​​​

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                    • If you are looking for the best EW play in this at big odds look no further than Indefatigable. Her record around Cheltenham reads best of all the runners 512142, with 3 of those runs at the festival including a win 2 years ago. With her 7lb allowance her rating is net 153 which puts her high on the list. With the current forecast she's almost certain to run here instead of the Mares and, with there likely to be a large field , if you wait until the day some bookies will go 4 maybe 5 places which will be very attractive indeed. That'll be my play anyway. There may even be some 'without Flooring ' markets which may also appeal.

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                      • It's not a race for a without market imo. Whole appeal of something at a big price is due to the 'quirks' of the likes of FP. Taking him out just removes all value from the bet I suspect.

                        Although it would be dream result for both to win I guess

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                        • Sporting John drifted for both races all day Thursday and they announced on Friday, when not declared.
                          Just wasn't arsed cos he's shit.

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                          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                            The top of the market all have their issues though don't they. I can see why people are looking for each way plays further down.

                            I've actually had one myself on Lisnagar Oscar He's ran basically the same in the Cleeve as he did before winning this in 2020 (3rd and RPR of 148). And he's still only 9, younger than the likes of Champ, PP, Melon etc.

                            He's far from my main play in the race but he's the one outsider I've decided to get onside.

                            StIll fancy FP if he handles the occasion and gets to the front. But the concerns are obvious. ​​​
                            There's e/w plays then there's mid 140 horses running in a grade 1

                            Both need to find a huge amount to even place

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                              Surely both him and royal kahala need to improve a stone to feature in this

                              ….I think a few at the head of the market are temperamental and JoB is a trainer I like to get one hitting the frame at a decent price. It was 66-1 when JoB confirmed it as a target a few days ago.
                              Last edited by Eggs; 12 March 2022, 08:51 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                                There's e/w plays then there's mid 140 horses running in a grade 1

                                Both need to find a huge amount to even place
                                You'd have probably said the same in 2020?

                                It's almost like you're not aware he's won the race before tbh
                                Last edited by Benjy23; 12 March 2022, 09:12 AM.

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