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2022 Stayers Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

    It's not that good is it?
    To smash?

    I tihnk it's because it's in the second half of the week..... imagine having a load on Shishkin, then you're hoping Champ doesn't get pipped by some back to form previous winner.... cheering on a big bet and it not even winning...

    Just doesn't sit right .... if it was Day 1 I'd be more inclined, having that roll onto something seems better than having it the last leg.

    Absolutely no logic to that, just how it feels
    Definitely not. He can't be trusted can he ?? Bit like KD. I couldn't touch him.

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    • ….perhaps a few changing their competition entry.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Definitely not. He can't be trusted can he ?? Bit like KD. I couldn't touch him.
        You're thoughts on champ are well advertised, its not surprising you don't like that price! If he pissed in in the Cleeve then you'll be forced to sing a different song

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        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

          Definitely not. He can't be trusted can he ?? Bit like KD. I couldn't touch him.
          Why can’t he be trusted?

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          • Originally posted by charlie View Post

            I think it is. Baring Thyme Hill you have to go down to Paisley Park @ 25's to find the next British trained runner so the fact Champ could finish 4th or 5th to Irish horses who dominate the market makes the bet very appealing. If like me you think Champ has Thyme Hills measure, what else is there this side of the Irish Sea that would worry you? I love the idea of him finishing 4th and getting paid!
            It's a fair enough price at 5/4 but it's not as if today's result makes it a better bet! That's all.

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            • Originally posted by harchibald View Post
              I'd be looking for NRNB before backing Klassical after that performance - has to be a doubt that he'll run in the race now
              He seems better after a long break on recent runs so that may of messed him up there.

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              • Originally posted by Moby123 View Post

                It's a fair enough price at 5/4 but it's not as if today's result makes it a better bet! That's all.
                It'll be even money after you've steamed into it!

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                • Originally posted by Native River View Post
                  It's gonna be a right laugh Saturday when Paisley Park bolts up and just causes carnage in this market
                  ha ha, it wound cause carnage.
                  Unlikely though as going is against PP.

                  There really is no excuse for Champ on Saturday.
                  PP needs soft, and Mcfab is a doubtful stayer imo, and Champ is a powerful stayer.
                  Last edited by Carnage at Taunton; 27 January 2022, 02:49 PM.

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                  • Call me stupid but I’ve been convinced all year Melon goes close in this & with KD disappointing & think he could even end up Willies main hope - took plenty of the 20/1 nrnb anyway

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                    • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                      You're thoughts on champ are well advertised, its not surprising you don't like that price! If he pissed in in the Cleeve then you'll be forced to sing a different song
                      I still wouldn't have him. I'll be against him Saturday with McFabulous. It'll be a crawl and the ground will be against him as well. He's just as likely to throw his toys out in March like KD did today imo. He's not to be trusted after his desperate showing in the GC. But, we all think differently. I have been known to get things wrong!

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                      • Henry might just fancy his chances now with Aspire Tower.

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                        • Originally posted by Splinterboy82 View Post
                          Call me stupid but I’ve been convinced all year Melon goes close in this & with KD disappointing & think he could even end up Willies main hope - took plenty of the 20/1 nrnb anyway
                          You can get 25/1 NRNB with Fred

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                          • Originally posted by Moby123 View Post

                            It's a fair enough price at 5/4 but it's not as if today's result makes it a better bet! That's all.
                            Consider the actual opposition though. If you put a line through Thyme Hill who he held well at Ascot, you have to go down to PP at 25's to find the next credible British contender, and loads are confirmed as not going.

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                            • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                              Consider the actual opposition though. If you put a line through Thyme Hill who he held well at Ascot, you have to go down to PP at 25's to find the next credible British contender, and loads are confirmed as not going.
                              He's just pointing out todays result in Ireland makes no difference to your point...

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                              • Originally posted by Splinterboy82 View Post
                                Call me stupid but I’ve been convinced all year Melon goes close in this & with KD disappointing & think he could even end up Willies main hope - took plenty of the 20/1 nrnb anyway
                                Yeah I’m on him nrnb as well, he would be very interesting if he turned up here

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