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Melon NRNB does interest me, they did say they wanted to try something different with him and this could be it
I think it may be a different horse, in the same colours, that comes here, in the shape of Asterion Forlonge, as I think Quevega has mentioned previously.
I think they might realise, Melon, being 10, has one crack at a Gold Cup but they can re-visit the Gold Cup with Asterion Forlonge next season if he's able to sort his jumping out.
Anybody got anything encouraging to say about abracadabras? He isnt sparking this season at all yet.
No. He's not having a good season - they know he won't beat Honeysuckle in the CH so stepped him up hoping to be a player here & he doesn't see out the trip so they've scrapped it. Ruby Walsh said on RTC it's back to the drawing board with him so's probably a watching brief... frustrating as he's a top class horse on his day.
Easy to dismiss him but with that talent he could well run a big race at a huge price somewhere.
I don’t think he’s ever been a massively consistent horse, whether that be deliberate or otherwise, so this seasons form doesn’t shock me, he’s a Yorkhill type of horse in that when you think he’s gone at the game I think it will still worth backing blind every time he runs from now…
Easy for me to say now but Aba should of went chasing this season and if he flopped then reverted back to hurdles and targeted an Aintree Hurdle defence.
Easy to dismiss him but with that talent he could well run a big race at a huge price somewhere.
I don’t think he’s ever been a massively consistent horse, whether that be deliberate or otherwise, so this seasons form doesn’t shock me, he’s a Yorkhill type of horse in that when you think he’s gone at the game I think it will still worth backing blind every time he runs from now…
Don't get me started on Yorkhill! Remember there was a whole thread on here just for him one year...
Hills have got a W/O Honeysuckle market for the CH just seen posted on that thread... Aba is 20/1
Asterion Forlonge - 20/1 NRNB looks far too big to me.
Bags of latent ability in his Novice Hurdle season and started to harness that in John Durkan and King George before compulsory late errors. His jumping frailties make it a reasonable chance he reverts to hurdles if they want to run at Cheltenham with the Ryanair and Gold Cup both likely to provide a sterner jumping test than either of the two starts this year given the undulations of the track.
He'd be right up there with Klassical Dream, Flooring Porter and Champ at the head of the market in my book if coming here so with NRNB concession it's a no brainer for me, despite not wanting to tie up bank unnecessarily. Some will point to his jumping in the Supreme but it's a wildly different test on the New Course (see Goshen). Happy to forgive that run given the different course layout and just looks the wrong price to me.
I'd have him somewhere around 6/1 NRNB with plenty of frailties surrounding Klassical Dream and no certainties over Champ coming here either.
The New Course vs Old Course thing is a big player in that debate I think. Partly because the New Course (Stayers) is a lot less tight than the Old (Supreme) and also because there are only two flights of hurdles in the final 7 furlongs. His jumping held up fine in the Marsh which is again the New Course so I don't think the left/right thing is as cut and dried as some think.
As I briefly hinted at above, Goshen is a prime example of a similar horse that handled the New Course well (Triumph) but couldn't cope on the Old (Champion Hurdle). I see this as a very similar situation personally.
My hesitancy, even NRNB is that I feel every year I see failed chasers being mentioned as an interesting angle on this race, but as far as I can see (I've only been following the sport since 2014) it seems to be invariably won by a horse who has been committed hurdling that season?
My hesitancy, even NRNB is that I feel every year I see failed chasers being mentioned as an interesting angle on this race, but as far as I can see (I've only been following the sport since 2014) it seems to be invariably won by a horse who has been committed hurdling that season?
Big bucks
lisnagar Oscar
both started season chasing
think there’s one or 2 others but I’m in car waiting on a pork sandwich
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