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2022 Stayers Hurdle

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  • To me it’s a complete no brainer.
    Go through his form and it’s patently clear what race he should be in.
    If PN had kept chasing with Big Bucks…….
    Sometimes the horses just tell you.

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    • For betting purposes his next entry will tell us.

      I'm not keen really, and his run is more of an irritance than anything, because it'll force me to put him in my Stayers book if he was headed that way. That said, his price is unlikely to go any shorter, so I'm in no rush to back him. A roll-up will probably be the go to strategy at some point if they go that way.

      I'm not bothered at all if he goes to the Gold Cup though, I can't have him, and I'll just swerve him.
      Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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      • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
        For betting purposes his next entry will tell us.

        I'm not keen really, and his run is more of an irritance than anything, because it'll force me to put him in my Stayers book if he was headed that way. That said, his price is unlikely to go any shorter, so I'm in no rush to back him. A roll-up will probably be the go to strategy at some point if they go that way.

        I'm not bothered at all if he goes to the Gold Cup though, I can't have him, and I'll just swerve him.
        You not think that if Hendo confirms the Stayers, he will shorten a tad? He’s priced up now with a doubt he will run in the race.

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        • He's 4/1 - 9/2, so already priced as though he's coming to this CaT. Maybe the 9/2 firms will shorten to 4/1 on an entry. From a roll-up perspective I won't worry about it, not compared to the risk of losing a bet if he gets a chase entry instead.
          Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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          • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
            He's 4/1 - 9/2, so already priced as though he's coming to this CaT. Maybe the 9/2 firms will shorten to 4/1 on an entry. From a roll-up perspective I won't worry about it, not compared to the risk of losing a bet if he gets a chase entry instead.
            Okey doke, fair enough.

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            • Nigel Twiston Davies re Guard Your Dreams...

              I was delighted with Guard Your Dreams winning the International Hurdle at Cheltenham last weekend. On ratings he needed to find a fair bit but he’s a horse on the up and he certainly proved that.
              He’s in great order and we’ll still have a look at the Relkeel Hurdle on New Year’s Day, and there’s also the option of the Champion Hurdle Trial at Haydock towards the end of January.

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              • Can't believe Chump is the price he is after what we've had to endure from him and his trainer's race planning over the last 2 years. Don't even think his win yesterday was as impressive as pundits are saying. The fairly close proximity of an ageing and declining Paisley Park should worry any backers. I wouldn't touch Chump with one of Archie's famous bargepole's.

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                • Why do you keep calling him Chump?

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                    Can't believe Chump is the price he is after what we've had to endure from him and his trainer's race planning over the last 2 years. Don't even think his win yesterday was as impressive as pundits are saying. The fairly close proximity of an ageing and declining Paisley Park should worry any backers. I wouldn't touch Chump with one of Archie's famous bargepole's.
                    He is certainly not a very scary favourite.

                    He wouldn't put anyone off having a crack at the race.
                    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      Can't believe Chump is the price he is after what we've had to endure from him and his trainer's race planning over the last 2 years. Don't even think his win yesterday was as impressive as pundits are saying. The fairly close proximity of an ageing and declining Paisley Park should worry any backers. I wouldn't touch Chump with one of Archie's famous bargepole's.
                      It’s funny how we dislike a horse for the failings of the humans that take care of them...seems a little harsh to take it out on the horse...his name is Champ

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                      • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                        It’s funny how we dislike a horse for the failings of the humans that take care of them...seems a little harsh to take it out on the horse...his name is Champ
                        Not just Hendo, I just don't think he's all that either. Huge hype horse. Doesn't deserve the press he gets at all. He's Chump to me.

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                        • Paisley finished closer to Flooring Porter in the 2021 Stayers than he did Champ yesterday... Make of that what you will.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                            Not just Hendo, I just don't think he's all that either. Huge hype horse. Doesn't deserve the press he gets at all. He's Chump to me.
                            Yep that’s an opinion you’re entitled to still think it’s totally unnecessary to call a horse that has won 10 out of16 races and over ?300k in prize money chump. But hey they only risk their lives for our entertainment.

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                            • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                              Why do you keep calling him Chump?
                              Because, imo, punters who have backed him are foolish and have been easily deceived.......nothing more than that.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                Because, imo, punters who have backed him are foolish and have been easily deceived.......nothing more than that.
                                Yep
                                fucking idiots the ones that backed him Saturday

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