2022 Ryanair Chase

[Geegees]

Was there any post race comments across any of the trainers?

[Nwfb89]

Was there any post race comments across any of the trainers?

Nicholls said Saint calvados bled, not sure if he's going to come here will have to get him right first so sounding unlikely, he did however mention tonight at ascot on there cheltenham preview that hitman might run here said he's crying out for a step up in trip although he did concede that if allaho runs anywhere near last years form it will be impossible to beat him, so again in true Nicholls form he could wait for Aintree with hitman

[Geegees]

Great thanks

[charlie]

Nicholls said Saint calvados bled, not sure if he's going to come here will have to get him right first so sounding unlikely, he did however mention tonight at ascot on there cheltenham preview that hitman might run here said he's crying out for a step up in trip although he did concede that if allaho runs anywhere near last years form it will be impossible to beat him, so again in true Nicholls form he could wait for Aintree with hitman

Thanks for the info. Most runners between Janidil and Allaho are coming out and he was one of the major ones left in.

[Benjy23]

Where is the without Allaho market again?

[charlie]

Where is the without Allaho market again?

Betfair Sportsbook

[charlie]

If Fakir and Saint Calvados both go straight to Aintree then 5/1 about Janidil in the w/o Allaho market (Betfair) will look mustard (it already looks great).

Both moves would make sense. Fakir had a tough race on Saturday and I doubt they'll be in a rush to chase Allaho around again when the same connections have Janidil. Saint Calvados reportedly bled, so the words 'wait for Aintree' are 1/50 to leave Paul Nicholls' mouth in the coming weeks. These two coming out plus Energumene, CPS, APT, Conflated and Tornado Flyer all coming out will leave this field decimated of quality.

Of the 7 runners left worth mentioning you have 1 that looks handicap bound, 3 that look likely to go for other targets, leaving 3, only one I which I think is capable of giving Janidil a race (Melon - bold likely runners):

Shan Blue (148) - Surely Ultima bound off that mark
Envoi Allen (161) - Looks QMCC bound but he's just not that good is he, and connections have the favourite
Eldorado Allen (166) - Up 11lbs to 166 and will presumably now go Gold Cup. He's a 155 horse over an intermediate trip
Melon (164) - I think he's an EW player but at 10 I don't think he'll trouble Janidil
Asterion Forlonge (164) - Left handed would be a worry, could go stayers, comes with lots of risk
Fanion D'estruval (162) - Rubbish at Cheltenham and just not up to this level
Mister Fisher (160) - Far too mistake prone and probably just beneath what it takes to win this

The mares chase will take out the odd mare slotting in and the GC looks open, which will tempt connections to go there instead of here.

I think we'll be looking at a race with 7-8 runners max and 5/1 w/o Allaho 3 places will look superb.

Adding 2pts Janidil @ 5/1 W/O Allaho

[Kevloaf]

PP have the market too (without Allaho)

[DenmanSacre]

If Fakir and Saint Calvados both go straight to Aintree then 5/1 about Janidil in the w/o Allaho market (Betfair) will look mustard (it already looks great).

Both moves would make sense. Fakir had a tough race on Saturday and I doubt they'll be in a rush to chase Allaho around again when the same connections have Janidil. Saint Calvados reportedly bled, so the words 'wait for Aintree' are 1/50 to leave Paul Nicholls' mouth in the coming weeks. These two coming out plus Energumene, CPS, APT, Conflated and Tornado Flyer all coming out will leave this field decimated of quality.

Of the 7 runners left worth mentioning you have 1 that looks handicap bound, 3 that look likely to go for other targets, leaving 3, only one I which I think is capable of giving Janidil a race (Melon - bold likely runners):

Shan Blue (148) - Surely Ultima bound off that mark
Envoi Allen (161) - Looks QMCC bound but he's just not that good is he, and connections have the favourite
Eldorado Allen (166) - Up 11lbs to 166 and will presumably now go Gold Cup. He's a 155 horse over an intermediate trip
Melon (164) - I think he's an EW player but at 10 I don't think he'll trouble Janidil
Asterion Forlonge (164) - Left handed would be a worry, could go stayers, comes with lots of risk
Fanion D'estruval (162) - Rubbish at Cheltenham and just not up to this level
Mister Fisher (160) - Far too mistake prone and probably just beneath what it takes to win this

The mares chase will take out the odd mare slotting in and the GC looks open, which will tempt connections to go there instead of here.

I think we'll be looking at a race with 7-8 runners max and 5/1 w/o Allaho 3 places will look superb.

Adding 2pts Janidil @ 5/1 W/O Allaho

Shan Blue is going for the Ryanair according to Dan Skelton last week. They said they did look at the handicaps but they feel he is a grade 1 horse and should run in the Ryanair.

Eldorado Allen will come here. Connections have said they favour the Ryanair so they don't have to pay the supplementary fee. May be one for the Gold Cup next year after a decent spin here ala Cue Card and Don Cossack (not that he is in their league!).

Hitman may come here but unlikely to be good enough to win. 40s with Bet365 compared to 12s with Sky. If it's a small field, he should be lower than 40s so may be one to lay on the day for stake back for a free bet and decent chance of getting a place.

Even with those, Janidil at 5/1 is a brilliant bet.

[Eggs]

….Asterion out to 33-1 NRNB with 365.

[charlie]

Shan Blue is going for the Ryanair according to Dan Skelton last week. They said they did look at the handicaps but they feel he is a grade 1 horse and should run in the Ryanair.

Eldorado Allen will come here. Connections have said they favour the Ryanair so they don't have to pay the supplementary fee. May be one for the Gold Cup next year after a decent spin here ala Cue Card and Don Cossack (not that he is in their league!).

Hitman may come here but unlikely to be good enough to win. 40s with Bet365 compared to 12s with Sky. If it's a small field, he should be lower than 40s so may be one to lay on the day for stake back for a free bet and decent chance of getting a place.

Even with those, Janidil at 5/1 is a brilliant bet.

I don't believe Skelton but even if he does send him I'm not bothered. Poor Cheltenham record and loads to find on ratings.

Re Eldorado Allen, Terry Warner said the Ryanair is more likely but I don't buy it either. The trip brought about significant improvement and Tizzard loves a GC runner. I think they'd be absolutely mental not to have a go this year. The Gold Cup looks open and he's only an 8yo. The Ryanair will be there next year when he's 9 and 10, and I think that exact conversation will be had once the dust settles and that's what they'll do.

[Splinterboy82]

Clearly everyone is starting to cotton onto this beautiful Janidill ew bet w/o A as now into 7/2….which is still very decent imo by the way. He’s likely to be clear second fav around 7/2 outright on the day & closer to 6/4 w/o fav

[Splinterboy82]

Also, for those that can get on with Skybet….Janidill is 2/1 to place top 3 - covers an extra place if that’s your thing.

Hell, Janidill to place & the Tiger to win works out just over 10/1 double with them. Wish I could actually still bet with them lol - you can do loads with them place only multis

[Spectre]

I don't believe Skelton but even if he does send him I'm not bothered. Poor Cheltenham record and loads to find on ratings.

He is. First hand info from the trainer Charlie.

[charlie]

He is. First hand info from the trainer Charlie.

Thanks for confirming Spectre. Good news for the Ultima and doesn't bother me here. Win win