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2022 Ryanair Chase

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
    Just the 7 for Mullins in the John Durkan..

    Big test for Envoi this, he's had the beneficiary of a run to blow the cob webs away unlike the majority of these so anything bar a win would be disappointing.
    It’s a hell of a race, I agree that when you have a horse like Envoi anything less than a win is a failure but this is a serious test…

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    • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
      Just the 7 for Mullins in the John Durkan..

      Big test for Envoi this, he's had the beneficiary of a run to blow the cob webs away unlike the majority of these so anything bar a win would be disappointing.
      Hopefully we get to see it and there's no fog like last year haha

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      • You'd imagine that all of Willie's will need the run.

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        • Originally posted by archie View Post
          You'd imagine that all of Willie's will need the run.
          Yes I'm hoping that's the case

          I'm on envoi at a decent price so want him to win and the bookies to overreact to allaho simply having a jog around for fitness like he did last year

          6s would be lovely but 5s probably more likely

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          • I see Patrick has got Bryony a ride on Franco De Port in the John Durkan

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            • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
              Just the 7 for Mullins in the John Durkan..

              Big test for Envoi this, he's had the beneficiary of a run to blow the cob webs away unlike the majority of these so anything bar a win would be disappointing.
              ….PP have Envoi @ 14-1 to win tomorrow & Ryanair (9-1 Sky).

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              • Think that’s a decent price, had a little of that.

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                • Hopefully tomorrow will give some clarity on some of those at the head of the market for this. Envoi has the benefit of a run and with some of Willie’s disappointing first time out today, you’d struggle to find excuses for him if he didn’t win tomorrow. As a Gold Cup backer, I’m hoping he wins going away and gets Cheveley thinking about the big one instead.

                  It will be interesting to hear what Willie has to say about Energumene after the race tomorrow too. He was one of my early fancies for this but all signs seem to be pointing towards the QMCC.

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                  • Hopefully the bookies overreact and give us 7s or 8s on allaho after he likely blows up tomorrow

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                    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post

                      ….PP have Envoi @ 14-1 to win tomorrow & Ryanair (9-1 Sky).
                      Tempted by that, but the Will-he-won’t-he issue puts me off a bit due to there being no cash out. I’d probably make him 4/6 to go for the Ryanair at the moment if you put a gun to my head, but there are all sorts to consider regarding the various options the trainer and owners have

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                      • Originally posted by ToniC View Post

                        Tempted by that, but the Will-he-won’t-he issue puts me off a bit due to there being no cash out. I’d probably make him 4/6 to go for the Ryanair at the moment if you put a gun to my head, but there are all sorts to consider regarding the various options the trainer and owners have
                        ….for some reason when PP offer something decent on one, I start doubting.

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                        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                          Hopefully the bookies overreact and give us 7s or 8s on allaho after he likely blows up tomorrow
                          Yes. Purposely not bet him for Ryanair for this reason. Banking on at least 6/1 after Asterion Forlonge beats him tomorrow. That'll suit me just fine.

                          The bookies reaction for Elimay getting beat today gives me a lot of hope.

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                          • Envoi price is appalling tomorrow
                            hard to pick which of willies will go well though.

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                            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                              Envoi price is appalling tomorrow
                              hard to pick which of willies will go well though.
                              Tomorrow we find out if envoi is the horse Gordon always thought he was

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                              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                                Tomorrow we find out if envoi is the horse Gordon always thought he was
                                I hope so. I think his performance in the Ballymore from 2 out, being caught out round the bend and making up the deficit in a few strides, was the most impressive love performance I've seen.

                                I hope he's every bit as good as Gordon and others think.

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