2022 Turners Novices Chase (ex Marsh)

[Istabraq]

What a knob trying to spread misinformation replies on twitter looks like he's done it before

People make a living from doing this, we’ve had one or two in here too.
My advice would be check everything you hear, always better to have missed out on something than to have jumped in and gifted someone a few quid.
The most common one is the ‘horse x goes for this race’ rumour when they will have put up orders for the wrong race and made money out of people jumping on.
It’s filthy but a way of life sadly…

[Saxon Warrior]

A few weighed in on him, rightly so, and he’s deleted the tweet.

I started to bombard him with the Limini tweets where he scammed twitter folk to cash out and went in and got a bigger price.
He branded about it on twitter back then.

So I started bringing those tweets into his Bob Olinger post and asking him if he was now trying the same with Bob Olinger.

Must be a New Year resolution to f#ck people over as it was almost 5 years to the day he tried it with Limini.

He took his Bob Olinger message down after his past with Limini began to haunt him.

[Guinness Village]

This guy used to post in the racingpost forum many years ago. Complete knob and was barred I recall

[Kevloaf]

Galopin Des Champs would win this, wouldn't he?

One of the first NRNB prices I'll be looking at

[FredFlintstone]

Galopin Des Champs would win this, wouldn't he?

One of the first NRNB prices I'll be looking at

Great point Kev

What price would you expect him to be NRNB?

If something was to happen with BO there would be a v good chance he could run in this

[OscarWhisky]

I wouldn’t be expecting him much more than his BANC price?

[Morley Street]

Great point Kev

What price would you expect him to be NRNB?

If something was to happen with BO there would be a v good chance he could run in this

I can’t see any situation in where he’d run in the Turners myself, whether something we’d go happen to Bob or not. If he got beat in the Flogas, then a step up in trip would be even more obvious. I think Mullins has learnt from Monk last year and is training GDC to peak at the Fez over 3 miles… he has plenty of options for the Turners, Jungke Boogie being top of the list imo.

[Stormez]

I can’t see any situation in where he’d run in the Turners myself, whether something we’d go happen to Bob or not. If he got beat in the Flogas, then a step up in trip would be even more obvious. I think Mullins has learnt from Monk last year and is training GDC to peak at the Fez over 3 miles… he has plenty of options for the Turners, Jungke Boogie being top of the list imo.

For me switching races is for horses that aren’t definitively theirs stables no.1, which GDC clearly is.

Why would he move away from his optimum distance to avoid tougher opposition? The tough opposition will be switching races to avoid him if anything IMO.

[Rooster Booster]

For me switching races is for horses that aren’t definitively theirs stables no.1, which GDC clearly is.

Why would he move away from his optimum distance to avoid tougher opposition? The tough opposition will be switching races to avoid him if anything IMO.

From what I saw this fella might be too good to have an optimum distance...or where the difference is too insignificant to care about....I hope so anyway.

[Stormez]

From what I saw this fella might be too good to have an optimum distance...or where the difference is too insignificant to care about....I hope so anyway.

Can’t argue with that, but on the evidence of his runs so far his best performance has been on his only try over 3 miles.

[Milbear0]

For me switching races is for horses that aren’t definitively theirs stables no.1, which GDC clearly is.

Why would he move away from his optimum distance to avoid tougher opposition? The tough opposition will be switching races to avoid him if anything IMO.

Bit of an assumption that 3m is his optimum distance isn’t it? He looked pretty much at his optimum the last day.
He’s only run over 3m once, albeit I agree it’s his most likely target I’d probably have him as fav over BobO for the turners should they be priced up NRNB today.

[Stormez]

Bit of an assumption that 3m is his optimum distance isn’t it? He looked pretty much at his optimum the last day.
He’s only run over 3m once, albeit I agree it’s his most likely target I’d probably have him as fav over BobO for the turners should they be priced up NRNB today.

Probably, but we should all pray it is his optimum distance. No one wants him to become a Ryanair horse!

[Rooster Booster]

Probably, but we should all pray it is his optimum distance. No one wants him to become a Ryanair horse!

If he is a Ryanair horse then it will be less about what his optimum trip is and more that he turns out not to be as good as we think he is ,, fear not and keep the faith

[Kevloaf]

Great point Kev

What price would you expect him to be NRNB?

If something was to happen with BO there would be a v good chance he could run in this

I wouldn’t be expecting him much more than his BANC price?

To answer both of those at once.... I wouldn't expect more than his BANC either, but I'd have him odds on if Bob Olinger didn't run, and for me that's the only real reason he WOULD run.

I can’t see any situation in where he’d run in the Turners myself, whether something we’d go happen to Bob or not. If he got beat in the Flogas, then a step up in trip would be even more obvious. I think Mullins has learnt from Monk last year and is training GDC to peak at the Fez over 3 miles… he has plenty of options for the Turners, Jungke Boogie being top of the list imo.

If Bob Olinger wasn't there, you couldn't see any reason to keep GDS at the trip he's just won at with a superb performance? If it looks an easier race, then surely they'd consider it?
Heavy ground is another reason they'd consider it...

You surely can see 'a situation' where it happens?

..... and NRNB it's literally no risk is it?

Can’t argue with that, but on the evidence of his runs so far his best performance has been on his only try over 3 miles.

I would say people would argue his BEST performance was his his chase debut at 2m5f so far? Some think it's the best in over 15+ years..... his RPR is also higher on chase debut than the G1 3m win.



Obviously I'm not saying he wouldn't also be shit hot or even better at 3m, my point is just....

When it's NRNB, I'll check him first because IF he ran, I think it'd be because Bob Olinger wasn't running... and therefore have the strong fav.... and it's literally the distance we've just seen him perform like a star at.

I have no doubts he'd also win at other trips either.

If he is a Ryanair horse then it will be less about what his optimum trip is and more that he turns out not to be as good as we think he is ,, fear not and keep the faith

and that's spot on IMO.

Running in the Turners this year, wouldn't stop them going up in trip after it and seeing if they have a Gold Cup horse... which lets face it, we all think they have!

Do we expect Bob Olinger to go to the Ryanair next year? Nope!

albeit I agree it’s his most likely target I’d probably have him as fav over BobO for the turners should they be priced up NRNB today.

Yes, that's where I think I'm at too.... which is why he'll be one of the first NRNB prices I check, as I think he'd only run without Bob O... and given I think he would be a stronger fav, he's interesting.

He's going to bolt up in either for me.

[ComplyOrDie]

Do we expect Bob Olinger to go to the Ryanair next year? Nope!

Yes, I do.

It's much to our annoyance that the Ryanair is a G1, but ultimately we have to accept it, and I don't think Henry nor Robcour will turn their noses up at a G1 Chase at a Cheltenham Festival.

Henry has said previously (will try and find the actual quote if required) that he sees no reason to step him up in trip yet, or something along them lines.

If he wins the Turners, I can fairly comfortably see him going for the Ryanair, and then onto the Gold Cup the following year, aged 9.

I actually think his optimum trip is the intermediate one anyway, and think he has the potential to be found out over further.