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2022 Champion Bumper

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  • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
    Willie Mullins on Redemption Day:
    "Patrick was very impressed with him at Christmas. We didn’t get the chance to get him out at the Dublin Racing Festival. Fingers crossed he stays right and he’ll go to Cheltenham as he’s a good back-up to Facile Vega"

    I just saw this on Twitter.

    Does Willie usually call a horse a back-up that is under a different owner? I always thought he usually would say something along the lines of 'he'll go with a fair chance' and not usually this blunt
    Reading way, way too much into that

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

      Reading way, way too much into that
      They were his words, not mine. He literally said 'back-up'.

      Not sure how I've read too much into it? Historically I just don't remember him calling a horse a 'back-up' that's all.

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      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

        They were his words, not mine. He literally said 'back-up'.

        Not sure how I've read too much into it? Historically I just don't remember him calling a horse a 'back-up' that's all.
        I know that mate, I read it too... it's just way too much to actually then start pondering whether he's ever used the words "back-up" before as if you can use it for any edge at all IMO


        You're taking it that Willie saying "back-up" means he's worse than Facile Vega? Would that even be news, I don't think anyone can dispute that really on what we've seen. The back up may be better by the end of the Wednesday though.



        Reading between the lines from Willie, as you well know, is already an area than can have people 'reading too much into', and this is just another level for me.




        It's not as obvious as him banging on about Chacun Pour Soi compared to Energumene for starters!

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          I know that mate, I read it too... it's just way too much to actually then start pondering whether he's ever used the words "back-up" before as if you can use it for any edge at all IMO


          You're taking it that Willie saying "back-up" means he's worse than Facile Vega?
          Yeah, basically. Truthfully I'm trying to justify a way of not backing Redemption Day, as I feel I'm already at a staking point for this race that I don't want to exceed.

          In reality I'm hoping Mercurey doesn't run, and the price holds on Redemption Day so I can have an E/W bet to nothing As Patrick has been making the right noises about him, tbf!

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          • "He’ll win the Champion Bumper and I’d almost say it’s pointless anything else turning up!"

            Hendo on Facile Vega.

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            • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
              "He’ll win the Champion Bumper and I’d almost say it’s pointless anything else turning up!"

              Hendo on Facile Vega.
              Says the man who's never had a runner in it.

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                Says the man who's never had a runner in it.
                Does he need a runner in it to see what we have all seen?

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                • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                  Does he need a runner in it to see what we have all seen?
                  IMO yes. He doesn't know what it takes to train the winner of the race so I'm not sure Id trust him entirely picking one out for it.

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                  • Ok, so one of the greatest trainers of all time is not to be trusted when giving a completely unbiased opinion, just because he does not like the race for his young horses?

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                    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
                      Ok, so one of the greatest trainers of all time is not to be trusted when giving a completely unbiased opinion, just because he does not like the race for his young horses?
                      In a nutshell yes. My opinion of course.

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                      • Which of course you are entitled to.


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                        • Originally posted by tdearling View Post
                          No one is talking about Mullenbeg (correct me if I am wrong).
                          I just think that she has a big chance. She will be getting the 7lb mares allowance from most of the big guns. .
                          She might be running this Saturday at sandown according to the trainer

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                          • Going mad here but why is top dog not in the betting for this ? Emma said going?

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                            • Originally posted by Olliemagern View Post

                              She might be running this Saturday at sandown according to the trainer
                              Yeah, Gavin Lynch just tipped her up for the race this weekend which she is about 13/8
                              I kinda hope she doesn't run this weekend!

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                              • Originally posted by Olliemagern View Post

                                She might be running this Saturday at sandown according to the trainer
                                Mullenbeg is jocked up on Saturday but Rosy Redrum iisn't.
                                Suggests RR is Milton's one for Cheltenham.

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