Am I the only one who thinks regardless of result they'll meet again in the CC anyway? No way Hendo sends Shishkin anywhere else, and with CPS' status uncertain and with Allaho why would The Weirdo go elsewhere?
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2022 Queen Mother Champion Chase
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Originally posted by robith View PostAm I the only one who thinks regardless of result they'll meet again in the CC anyway?
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Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
No, I think most side with this. If there was a scenario where they didn't then my money would be on Energumene not getting on the boat in March. Lobos has been wedded to the idea that Allaho goes CC for a while and he's not going to let go of it when he's come this far!
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Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
No, I think most side with this. If there was a scenario where they didn't then my money would be on Energumene not getting on the boat in March. Lobos has been wedded to the idea that Allaho goes CC for a while and he's not going to let go of it when he's come this far!
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We need to see how Shiskhin acts in his very regular although very short flat spot, up against a quality opponent. I would go so far to say that Shiskhin has only ever once beaten a quality 'field' - in his Supreme year. A tactical and slow run affair will tell us little. If Energemene has stamina then you'd expect him to try and make capital out of that.
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Who has Energumene beat ? Very little I reckon. Shishkin by a country mile was the best Hurdler of the two. Energumene massively inferior over the smaller obstacles. Yes, he's improved enormously over fences but he still doesn't have the class and flat speed that Shishkin oozes. For me Shishkin is the better '2 mile' chaser of the two as well. His speed over a fence and how low and accurate he is gives him a huge advantage as no energy is wasted in the air and landing. He's a sensational chaser. That's me done.
Last edited by Lobos; 20 January 2022, 04:13 PM.
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostWho has Energumene beat ? Very little I reckon. Shishkin by a country mile was the best Hurdler of the two. Energumene massively inferior over the smaller obstacles. Yes, he's improved enormously over fences but he still doesn't have the class and flat speed that Shishkin oozes. For me Shishkin is the better '2 mile' chaser of the two as well. His speed over a fence and how low and accurate he is gives him a huge advantage as no energy is wasted in the air and landing. He's a sensational chaser. That's me done.
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostWho has Energumene beat ? Very little I reckon. Shishkin by a country mile was the best Hurdler of the two. Energumene massively inferior over the smaller obstacles. Yes, he's improved enormously over fences but he still doesn't have the class and flat speed that Shishkin oozes. For me Shishkin is the better '2 mile' chaser of the two as well. His speed over a fence and how low and accurate he is gives him a huge advantage as no energy is wasted in the air and landing. He's a sensational chaser. That's me done.
Theres very little between the two on what weve seen so far
Cant wait for Saturday the race of the season so far
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostWho has Energumene beat ? Very little I reckon. Shishkin by a country mile was the best Hurdler of the two. Energumene massively inferior over the smaller obstacles. Yes, he's improved enormously over fences but he still doesn't have the class and flat speed that Shishkin oozes. For me Shishkin is the better '2 mile' chaser of the two as well. His speed over a fence and how low and accurate he is gives him a huge advantage as no energy is wasted in the air and landing. He's a sensational chaser. That's me done.
Both very good horses for me.
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