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2022 Browns Advisory Novices (3m) Chase - ex RSA

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  • Originally posted by The Conditional View Post
    Fury Road is my pick for this. By Stowaway who sired Monkfish and was sent off fav for the Stayers last year. Return to 3m will help and think if he brings his Leopardstown form he will be a player. French Breds have a terrible record in this race, so am against BMG and L'Homme Presse at the prices. Even Long Run lost this race as a French bred, so good horses can just tend to jump a bit extravagantly.
    If the right fury road turns up he’s got a right chance. Only start over 3m fences = grade 1 win.

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    • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
      Capodanno at 8s is a cracking EW bet for me. 2 runs ago finishes 4 3/4 Lengths behind Bob. Would you be confident on any of the ones above would get closer I wouldnt..
      Yep 100% agree, best form in the race for me and although his jumping is a question there’s holes in most of these. L’Homme is probably a bet also if he goes 4/1-9/2 tomorrow/Wednesday.

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      • ground be quick enough for him but given what stattler done today farouk dalene might be a bit big at 18s for this. Beacon edge on a line through the latter too and he shouldn’t mind the quicker ground.

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        • Originally posted by ToniC View Post
          ground be quick enough for him but given what stattler done today farouk dalene might be a bit big at 18s for this. Beacon edge on a line through the latter too and he shouldn’t mind the quicker ground.
          Yep my thoughts when going through it. Beacon Edge is a good each way play with some offering 4 places. Proven around Cheltenham as well
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          • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

            Yep my thoughts when going through it. Beacon Edge is a good each way play with some offering 4 places. Proven around Cheltenham as well
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            Yep Gabynako given him a little boost today too.

            like a Sunday afternoon staying handicap Chase with all the maroon and white in here tomorrow, could make a case for any of the 3 to run well wouldn’t surprise me if one did

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            • I prefer Bravemansgame to L'Homme Presse given his form over the distance though both are excellent solid jumpers. Ahoy Senor jumped better at Wetherby than Kempton but it's still a cause for concern. As an e/w Farouk d'Alene's form line has been boosted by Stattler and we know he stays the trip ok

              Selections: Bravemansgame
              e/w Farouk d'Alene
              other: Ahoy Senor

              Rethink with BMG out: and the new prices
              Beacon Edge, Faroiuk and e/w Threeunderthrufive
              Last edited by Supermaster; 16 March 2022, 03:12 PM.

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              • Really struggling with this race

                - If the going remained good, good to soft (unlikely with this rain and potentially watering), I would have to back Bravesmansgame - he'll outpace these and outjump them
                - Ahoy Senor worries me with his jumping, plus I think he wants a proper 3 mile staying race, soft ground. Use his engine to wear them down.
                - I dont fancy the Irish lot, but will take another look in the morning

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                • Originally posted by opatcho View Post
                  Really struggling with this race

                  - If the going remained good, good to soft (unlikely with this rain and potentially watering), I would have to back Bravesmansgame - he'll outpace these and outjump them
                  - Ahoy Senor worries me with his jumping, plus I think he wants a proper 3 mile staying race, soft ground. Use his engine to wear them down.
                  - I dont fancy the Irish lot, but will take another look in the morning
                  Yeah, I feel it's become a lot more difficult in recent weeks now GDC is going for the Turners and L'Homme Presse has decided to come here.

                  I've got my preferred result, but I'm no where near confident, such is the field now.

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                  • At the risk of sounding like a broken record, French breds are 0/36 here. Imo BMG and LHP have to be taken on

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                    • Originally posted by robith View Post
                      At the risk of sounding like a broken record, French breds are 0/36 here. Imo BMG and LHP have to be taken on
                      I think this is hugely open

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                      • Originally posted by robith View Post
                        At the risk of sounding like a broken record, French breds are 0/36 here. Imo BMG and LHP have to be taken on
                        Totally agree
                        But I would gladly ignore that stat if the ground remained good/quick
                        Watering and rain will slow it down a bit, but will it be enough for these proper stayers? I doubt it.

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                        • Originally posted by robith View Post
                          At the risk of sounding like a broken record, French breds are 0/36 here. Imo BMG and LHP have to be taken on
                          Stats are made to be broken

                          And looking at tomorrow's field theres a good chance it will be with 5 French breds in the field including 3 of the top 4 in the betting

                          I guarantee if I backed purely on that stat this would be the year that 0 became a 1

                          Is there an actual logical reason for French breds not winning? Do they not stay? Do they not jump well?

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                          • Allaho came close, but ran in AB so was campaigned over staying trip (Soft)
                            Delta work came close, he's jumping wasnt great that day (Soft)
                            Black Corton beaten, Al Boum Photo likely to have been beaten (Soft), but went onto winning Gold Cup
                            Whisper came close, with Might Bites help (Good-Soft)
                            Smad Palace was beaten by a nk. (Good)

                            They're come close to breaking this stat. I would assume the gritty nature of the RSA on soft/testing ground would contribute towards this, I wonder if this is the same with the AB at that age. ??

                            I think it would make sense that French horses might get closer on better ground

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                            • Is 3/1 about BMG a bit of a gift? I was expecting him W/O he who shall not be named to be even money.

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                              • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                                Is 3/1 about BMG a bit of a gift? I was expecting him W/O he who shall not be named to be even money.
                                You would image it is.... feels like a Might Bite year where there isnt really anything to challenge a horse that has speed over what should be quick'ish ground still
                                .... but why am I so hesitate?

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