2022 Browns Advisory Novices (3m) Chase - ex RSA

[CueCard]

They have this in the National Hunt Special Doubles section @ 25/1 if you didn’t want the risk of the bet being voided.

[Exar Essay]

They have this in the National Hunt Special Doubles section @ 25/1 if you didn’t want the risk of the bet being voided.

Thanks. Had a bit of that too in case the 33/1 is voided. Those specials are such a mess. The exact same bet is 18/1 in another section.

[Atlantic Viking]

They have this in the National Hunt Special Doubles section @ 25/1 if you didn’t want the risk of the bet being voided.

Quite like that, given the way things have been priced up this year, after that performance the other day, I would have expected it to be along the lines of 16/1.

[CueCard]

Quite like that, given the way things have been priced up this year, after that performance the other day, I would have expected it to be along the lines of 16/1.

In to 20s now! Edit: misread - the 20/1 is for any race in 2022.

[Exar Essay]

In to 20s now! Edit: misread - the 20/1 is for any race in 2022.

It’s defo 20s now. 15s for any race.

[Stormez]

Graeme North on Sporting life has said with regards to Bravemansgame ‘it’s out in the open he will swerve Cheltenham to fish the calmer waters at Aintree’.

Hadn’t realised it was that clear cut? Or is he jumping to conclusions?

[Exar Essay]

Graeme North on Sporting life has said with regards to Bravemansgame ‘it’s out in the open he will swerve Cheltenham to fish the calmer waters at Aintree’.

Hadn’t realised it was that clear cut? Or is he jumping to conclusions?

Not sure. It’s certainly not out in the open is it? Might be within journalistic circles. Alternatively, he’s referring to Nicholl’s post race comments, which have since been superseded by more measured comments.

[Quevega]

Graeme North on Sporting life has said with regards to Bravemansgame ‘it’s out in the open he will swerve Cheltenham to fish the calmer waters at Aintree’.

Hadn’t realised it was that clear cut? Or is he jumping to conclusions?

Talking shite I reckon.
The owners have said they want to go to Cheltenham, and Nichols confirmed this a couple of days after Kempton.
Just wether they will get another run on or not.

https://www.racingtv.com/news/bravemansgame-probably-will-head-to-cheltenham

[Rooster Booster]

Talking shite I reckon.
The owners have said they want to go to Cheltenham, and Nichols confirmed this a couple of days after Kempton.
Just wether they will get another run on or not.

https://www.racingtv.com/news/bravem...-to-cheltenham

This isn’t going to be popular on a cheltenham forum but if I owned him no way would I take on GDC after what I saw the other day. I would trust my trainer to do his best to win the KG like he said and win as much prize money on the way. There is the potential to run a personal best, still not win and bottom him for the season. They have already taken on one Irish superstar and left the rest of the season behind, and now they have seen GDC I’m not convinced they will want to see history repeat itself. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.

It’s easy for us to say of course he should run but we don’t own him and we get to move on to the next race on the card without another thought. All of us on here want to see titanic match ups but unless you are a JP or Gigi etc then perhaps it’s understandable if you were a little more clinical and less sporting in your decision making.

don’t get me wrong I’d love to see him run as he is an exceptional jumper and clearly a very good horse but GDC would scare me. I think I’d be thinking ok do your best to get the KG in the bag and then take him and all comers on after that in the Gold Cup.

[Quevega]

This isn’t going to be popular on a cheltenham forum but if I owned him no way would I take on GDC after what I saw the other day. I would trust my trainer to do his best to win the KG like he said and win as much prize money on the way. There is the potential to run a personal best, still not win and bottom him for the season. They have already taken on one Irish superstar and left the rest of the season behind, and now they have seen GDC I’m not convinced they will want to see history repeat itself. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.

It’s easy for us to say of course he should run but we don’t own him and we get to move on to the next race on the card without another thought. All of us on here want to see titanic match ups but unless you are a JP or Gigi etc then perhaps it’s understandable if you were a little more clinical and less sporting in your decision making.

don’t get me wrong I’d love to see him run as he is an exceptional jumper and clearly a very good horse but GDC would scare me. I think I’d be thinking ok do your best to get the KG in the bag and then take him and all comers on after that in the Gold Cup.

It's too early to throw the towel in after a rival has won a maiden.

Nicholls would spit his Gravy (all he drinks apparently) out on hearing that.

And not running a horse for fear of bottoming him in this context seems like it's just something to trot out. Rather than it being a serious consideration.
The King George is next season, and whilst it's a valid long term target for next year for this horse, it would be foolish to be prepping for that at this stage.

And Willie has a taste for the KIng George again now, as he can win it with exposed average horses on a day out.
So nothing to say GDC won't turn up there either.

[Rooster Booster]

It's too early to throw the towel in after a rival has won a maiden.

Nicholls would spit his Gravy (all he drinks apparently) out on hearing that.

And not running a horse for fear of bottoming him in this context seems like it's just something to trot out. Rather than it being a serious consideration.
The King George is next season, and whilst it's a valid long term target for next year for this horse, it would be foolish to be prepping for that at this stage.

And Willie has a taste for the KIng George again now, as he can win it with exposed average horses on a day out.
So nothing to say GDC won't turn up there either.

So do you think he gave his running at aintree then?

[Istabraq]

This isn’t going to be popular on a cheltenham forum but if I owned him no way would I take on GDC after what I saw the other day. I would trust my trainer to do his best

I'm with you, the talent on the other side of the Irish sea seems unending so why pitch your best horses in races they are realistically playing for place money when they can keep them fresh and hoover up the weaker G1s at Aintree three weeks later when the Irish are likely to be focused on Fairyhouse and Punchestown, I think Nichols recognises that...

[Quevega]

So do you think he gave his running at aintree then?

No idea.
Probably not far off.
I don't think Bob bottomed him if that's what you're getting at, unless something went off in the saddling sheds
He seemed one paced at both festivals last year to me.
Lacks the class of a really good horse like Bob Olinger.

However, his jumping is exceptional, and takes nothing out of him.
Definitely a better animal for a fence IMO.

[Quevega]

I'm with you, the talent on the other side of the Irish sea seems unending so why pitch your best horses in races they are realistically playing for place money when they can keep them fresh and hoover up the weaker G1s at Aintree three weeks later when the Irish are likely to be focused on Fairyhouse and Punchestown, I think Nichols recognises that...

I agree.
But it's too early to be backing off surely.
At least wait till dec's to duck out.
Once you see what you're really up against.

[Rooster Booster]

I'm with you, the talent on the other side of the Irish sea seems unending so why pitch your best horses in races they are realistically playing for place money when they can keep them fresh and hoover up the weaker G1s at Aintree three weeks later when the Irish are likely to be focused on Fairyhouse and Punchestown and I think Nichols recognises that...

Yep. Like I say I’d love to see him run but it’s easy for us tapping on our keyboard it’s a different ball game if you are the owner faced with the decision to run against a horse you think is better than you or run in another race with similar prize money and that you think you will win. Yes GDC could pitch up at the KG so you have no choice then as it’s your target race ....the RSA is a novice race it is not his target race and his racing life fingers crossed is only just beginning...it’s only us and other Cheltenham fanatics that think the way we do.