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2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by MTR View Post

    He’s got one out this Friday called city chief, owned by the donnelys, it’s been added to the ballymore market 20/1 bet365 and Bartlett betting at 25/1. Jerry McGrath put him up as one of his horses in the jumpers to follow book.

    Here is his PTP

    https://twitter.com/theracingjosh/st...984308225?s=21
    Looks useful, I'm mindful with Hendersons novices this season though. Seems to have a couple of rockets and then a few donkeys (or atleast from their first run) and soo far I've only backed the donkeys . I'll revisit the stable tour and see what he thinks.

    Uses the same term ,"striking" as he did for Constitution Hill which is certainly a positive, but he's only a 4 year old, what's their record in the ballymore?
    Last edited by JamieSensible; 13 December 2021, 07:01 PM. Reason: reviewed stable tour comments*

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    • What do people make of the City Chiefs and his P2P form?

      The horse in third (beaten 1.5 lengths) is the only one that has come out under rules since and has come 5th and 4th in bumpers respectively. I know the race was run at a slow gallop but it was a significantly slow time compared to previous years and even then they sped up considerably at the end which would normally close the time gap.

      Also looking at the race he’s entered in, the horses that have gone on to win have generally been stayers and most more often than not gone to the AB if they have gone to Cheltenham. That plus the way he won his point makes me think he’s a stayer all day long.

      Also another side note is that Nicky and the Donnelley's also had a horse in this race two years ago called ‘It Sure Is’ who was hyped up as much as City Chief. He went off at 4/5 and came 4th. He still hasn’t won since his point. It could be a race they target with there not so best ones and a nice day out for the Donnellys at Ascot

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      • Journey With Me entered in the 2m4 at Navan on Saturday, previously won by Bob Olinger.

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        • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post
          Journey With Me entered in the 2m4 at Navan on Saturday, previously won by Bob Olinger.
          Lovely. Win that then another quick run in the Lawlors then maybe put him away for March ?

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            Lovely. Win that then another quick run in the Lawlors then maybe put him away for March ?
            Only two weeks to the Lawlors, on 2nd Jan, that could be too tight for Henry.

            A big statement though, if he did take in that race.
            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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            • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post
              Journey With Me entered in the 2m4 at Navan on Saturday, previously won by Bob Olinger.
              Wrong Thread

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              • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                Wrong Thread
                Haha, I hope so! But I am starting to get a bit concerned he comes here. I've covered for the Ballymore too but would much prefer him in the Bartlett.

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                • Could see someone tip it up very shortly, here or the Potato! Price crash incoming!

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                  • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post

                    Haha, I hope so! But I am starting to get a bit concerned he comes here. I've covered for the Ballymore too but would much prefer him in the Bartlett.
                    Iv been worried about this myself, but after doing some analysis (put up earlier in this thread) of HDBs Ballymore and AB horses, I'm very happy with him starting over 2m4f. Its a fairly strong indicator that at this moment he is being aimed at the Albert Bartlett and not the Ballymore.

                    To sum up the findings, 100% of his Ballymore horses started out over 2miles and 100% of his AB horses started out over at least 2m3f.

                    Nothing is ever set in stone but it feels like a strong habit and Henry's set way of doing things.

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                    • Don’t worry this fella will end up in the AB no question unless he shows unreal gears and sectionals.

                      Grand Jury prob be their Ballymore horse with Gerri Colombe for the owners if they are good enough.

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                      • Originally posted by Big Bucks View Post
                        Could see someone tip it up very shortly, here or the Potato! Price crash incoming!
                        Could be a Gavin Lynch tip this week...

                        Originally posted by Many Clouds View Post

                        To sum up the findings, 100% of his Ballymore horses started out over 2miles and 100% of his AB horses started out over at least 2m3f.

                        Nothing is ever set in stone but it feels like a strong habit and Henry's set way of doing things.
                        This is re-assuring, thanks for the stats, Many Clouds. ​​​​​​​

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                        • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post

                          Could be a Gavin Lynch tip this week...



                          This is re-assuring, thanks for the stats, Many Clouds. ​​​​​​​
                          Lynch tipped up Blazing Khal for the AB last week I think?

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                          • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                            Only two weeks to the Lawlors, on 2nd Jan, that could be too tight for Henry.

                            A big statement though, if he did take in that race.
                            It is tight and he'll have to come out of his race really well but plenty of trainers like to run them in two quick races then give them a break. Henderson uses that formula with his best regularly so Henry could do the same.

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                            • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
                              Don’t worry this fella will end up in the AB no question unless he shows unreal gears and sectionals.

                              Grand Jury prob be their Ballymore horse with Gerri Colombe for the owners if they are good enough.
                              Thanks for the reminder/re-confirmation re JFM, small press...

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                              • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post

                                Lynch tipped up Blazing Khal for the AB last week I think?
                                Ah, I think he did, yeah. I'm a bit behind on the episodes myself.

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