2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

[Odin]

Different stables. If mid range distance suits them both, have two bullets in the same race. Why split them if it's not going to suit one of them.

Thinking from an owner perspective, if I've got two horses and it's not going to be heavily detrimental to either of them, why not have them in different races? For what it's worth, this angle is much more appropriate for GC Ballymore and JWM Bartlett than it is for GC Supreme and JWM Ballymore. Completely removing the bets we have on the horses, if you're an owner and you've got two horses that could have win/place chances in several races which may or may not be the case here, would you want to keep them both in the same race or split them? I'd split them hands down.

[Odin]

I’ve lost two Bet365 accounts by abusing the cashing out so, whilst it’s a excellent plan, the upside gain versus the risk of losing the concession should be considered.

Fair point that I hadn't considered given I'm an ultra small stakes bettor probably compared to some of you guys.

[JackieMoon33]

Fair point that I hadn't considered given I'm an ultra small stakes bettor probably compared to some of you guys.

Its a great concession to have but I'd personally use it to get out of bad bets, rather than to 'trade' based on price contraction alone.

[Lobos]

Thinking from an owner perspective, if I've got two horses and it's not going to be heavily detrimental to either of them, why not have them in different races? For what it's worth, this angle is much more appropriate for GC Ballymore and JWM Bartlett than it is for GC Supreme and JWM Ballymore. Completely removing the bets we have on the horses, if you're an owner and you've got two horses that could have win/place chances in several races which may or may not be the case here, would you want to keep them both in the same race or split them? I'd split them hands down.

If they had equal chances in another race yes, of course you'd split them. If they were both ideally suited to one distance then no, I'd rather have two good bites of the cherry and double my chances of a festival winner. The trainers would do all they can to put them in the correct race as well and we know who comes out on top generally trainer v owner.

[Odin]

If they had equal chances in another race yes, of course you'd split them. If they were both ideally suited to one distance then no, I'd rather have two good bites of the cherry and double my chances of a festival winner. The trainers would do all they can to put them in the correct race as well and we know who comes out on top generally trainer v owner.

That's a fair rebuttal. Will be interesting to see who ends up where

[Lobos]

That's a fair rebuttal. Will be interesting to see who ends up where

I think this season trainers will make multiple entries so we won't know for sure until very late. Injuries and ground conditions could change plans at the last minute which is why I've backed several for different races.

[Sprinter Sacre]

Frontier General entered at Cork on Sunday in a 2m 4f maiden hurdle.

Requested 365 to price him for this race and the Albert Bartlett, but they said "our Traders have reviewed the request and confirmed there are no current offers for this at the moment. However, they have confirmed that this may change further into the season."

[Many Clouds]

Last of the 25s on Dysart Dynamo just gone in last half hour, cut into 16s on Betfair and PP.
Now best priced 20s at Skybet only.

[Lobos]

Last of the 25s on Dysart Dynamo just gone in last half hour, cut into 16s on Betfair and PP.
Now best priced 20s at Skybet only.

Looks like he's been backed in with PP for Supreme as well (now 16's). Clearly on back of comments from Patrick .

[Eudipe]

Might I an impressive 2m2.5f maiden hurdle winner at Newton Abbot on Thurs, I Like To Move It a 2m Class 2 hurdle winner at Cheltenham on Sat and Gelino Bello a 2&1/2m maiden hurdle winner at Aintree today have all advertised the form of Sam Thomas's highly regarded Newbury bumper winner (under a penalty) Good Risk At All. He must be among the leading British candidates coming from that sphere to this.

[ToniC]

Guily Billy declared for the 2 mile maiden hurdle in clonmel Thursday

[Winging The Last]

Guily Billy declared for the 2 mile maiden hurdle in clonmel Thursday

Looks a pretty straight forward race for him as well to open his account. Should be long odds on there, based on his reputation

[ToniC]

Looks a pretty straight forward race for him as well to open his account. Should be long odds on there, based on his reputation

Yes would be expecting him to win based on opposition. Interesting they said 2m4 in the ATR stable tour, but he takes up his 3rd of 3 entries over 2m whilst there has been a few 2m4 maidens in the timeframe since he was first entered for a race. Shows you can’t always get too caught up on what these stable tours say I suppose. Ultimately tho Bob o started over 2 miles before going the Ballymore and I still think 2 and a half will probably be the right trip for Guily Billy this season when he’s entered in some proper races.

[Ballyfitz]

I know he’s not Irish so won’t be too popular, but the 66/1 for Mr Glass with Unibet (or 50s with BF/PP with cash out) might look good after the first at Chepstow today - especially if looking to cover a few in the race.

With Nicholls record at Chepstow (and the current price) I’d be hopeful of a good showing today

[Ray]

It doesnt matter, If he wins well today and the interviewer says what about the ballymore? Nicholls will say his favourite line these days “cheltenham isnt everything”