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2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jamie1867 View Post
    Dysart dynamo for the ballymore or supreme?
    Ballymore for me. He’ll no doubt start over shorter but I have a feeling he’ll be one of a few that can and will need to step up in trip.

    Mullins has an army for all novice hurdle races so he won’t be able to split them all if he tried.

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    • #32
      Was thinking the same, will he not be put off with kilcruit looking like ballymore? Maybe AB

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jamie1867 View Post
        Was thinking the same, will he not be put off with kilcruit looking like ballymore? Maybe AB
        If Willies bumper horses and French recruits all fulfil the talk surrounding them, he won’t have an easy time splitting up horses at all.

        Kilcruit, Sir G, Dysart, Dark Raven, Hubrisko + a couple of other Riccis, State Man, Bring On The Night, 2 x CPS and probably more.

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        • #34
          Love GE’s comments re Hollow Games with a view to this:

          He’s a very nice horse that we think a lot of. We decided not to run him in the Champion Bumper as we didn’t think it was the right thing to do with a big horse like him at that stage of his career. He schooled very well over hurdles at Tipperary last week and as soon as we get some rain, he’ll be ready to start off over hurdles. He’s probably a horse that will stay, but I wouldn’t be afraid to start him at two miles either. We’re really looking forward to him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jamie1867 View Post
            Was thinking the same, will he not be put off with kilcruit looking like ballymore? Maybe AB
            Kilcruit goin supreme IMO

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jamie1867 View Post
              Dysart dynamo for the ballymore or supreme?
              Yep. That's how I see it

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ray View Post

                Kilcruit goin supreme IMO
                Ballymore or Albert for me. Impossible to predict though. He has an army of potentially top Novice Hurdlers. Too many even for him to look after. Bullets going everywhere. Anyone who thinks they've nailed where any of Willie's or Gordon's or Henry's Novices are going, Hurdlers or Chasers, think again. I'm thinking now I should have taken all those TWAR prices that we thought were to short about them. In view of what I've just said.......the prices were probably right. Great fun though and loads of twists and turns and out for the season news to hit us all yet. Magic Daze.

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                • #38
                  Yeah its just my idea of a supreme runner but without a doubt they will all be goin anywere

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    Ballymore or Albert for me. Impossible to predict though. He has an army of potentially top Novice Hurdlers. Too many even for him to look after. Bullets going everywhere. Anyone who thinks they've nailed where any of Willie's or Gordon's or Henry's Novices are going, Hurdlers or Chasers, think again. I'm thinking now I should have taken all those TWAR prices that we thought were to short about them. In view of what I've just said.......the prices were probably right. Great fun though and loads of twists and turns and out for the season news to hit us all yet. Magic Daze.
                    I actually think that having more depth in their battalion can make it easier to predict targets. As he'll have so many decent options for each race, there is more chance they’ll run in the right one as opposed to being forced into another, just so that they have a chance of more winners.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by charlie View Post
                      Love GE’s comments re Hollow Games with a view to this:

                      He’s a very nice horse that we think a lot of. We decided not to run him in the Champion Bumper as we didn’t think it was the right thing to do with a big horse like him at that stage of his career. He schooled very well over hurdles at Tipperary last week and as soon as we get some rain, he’ll be ready to start off over hurdles. He’s probably a horse that will stay, but I wouldn’t be afraid to start him at two miles either. We’re really looking forward to him.
                      What do people think Hollow Games' target will be? Before this latest quote I had always assumed he would be a middle distance / staying type but this to me suggests he may be his Supreme horse (at least until he proves he doesn't have the gears). Can anyone think of a viable Supreme alternative to Hollow Games for Gordon particularly given his comments about Ginto, Three Stripe Life, Gerri Colombe and Au Fleuron?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

                        What do people think Hollow Games' target will be? Before this latest quote I had always assumed he would be a middle distance / staying type but this to me suggests he may be his Supreme horse (at least until he proves he doesn't have the gears). Can anyone think of a viable Supreme alternative to Hollow Games for Gordon particularly given his comments about Ginto, Three Stripe Life, Gerri Colombe and Au Fleuron?
                        I'd be fairly sure HG is 2.5 or 3 myself, but he could prove me wrong.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

                          What do people think Hollow Games' target will be? Before this latest quote I had always assumed he would be a middle distance / staying type but this to me suggests he may be his Supreme horse (at least until he proves he doesn't have the gears). Can anyone think of a viable Supreme alternative to Hollow Games for Gordon particularly given his comments about Ginto, Three Stripe Life, Gerri Colombe and Au Fleuron?
                          I’ll eat my hat if he runs in the Supreme and as soon as he steps up in grade, he’ll be up in trip too. I’m still 100% in the AB camp and won’t consider him for anything else.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                            I’ll eat my hat if he runs in the Supreme and as soon as he steps up in grade, he’ll be up in trip too. I’m still 100% in the AB camp and won’t consider him for anything else.
                            JM I think you're on the right path there,
                            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                              I’ll eat my hat if he runs in the Supreme and as soon as he steps up in grade, he’ll be up in trip too. I’m still 100% in the AB camp and won’t consider him for anything else.
                              That's what I assumed but which other of his novice hurdlers could fill the void?? I also think Ginto will be his Albert Bartlett horse.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Fouroverthrutwo View Post

                                That's what I assumed but which other of his novice hurdlers could fill the void?? I also think Ginto will be his Albert Bartlett horse.
                                I don’t think Gordon will try and force a stayer to run in the Supreme just to cover the race. Ginto and Hollow Games are the proper sloggers in his Novice ranks and I’d expect Gerri Colombe and Three Stripe Life to be in the Ballymore. There may be something else in his ranks for the Supreme but I’ve not found one I’d personally back for the race.

                                Hollow Games, Gerri Colombe and Three Stripe Life I have backed for those races.

                                Also, Gordon is quite often mob handed in the middle-to-staying races purely because of the type of horse he purchases.

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