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2022 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by Birds Nest View Post

    Same here, friend is one of them and said cheltenham too.
    Nichols would have to be a proper penis if he didn't let an "owners group horse" like this run at Cheltenham.
    Fair few of them would be queuing up to give him a slap I reckon.

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    • Originally posted by Bonjers View Post

      Yes, very clear. Also confirmed he doesn't go for the Betfair.
      Thanks.

      I do own a share in Stage Star and whilst I have been "thinking" Ballymore for months, none of the communications from Owners Group have been so definitive.
      They are always cautious with the info that they give out.

      Anyone "Knowing" that it's been Cheltenham for months has only been "assuming" (as I have) that he will follow the Bravemansgame route.

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      • Gerri Colombe declared in the 2m7 novice hurdle at Thurles on Sunday... Ballymore or Bartlett?

        With Robcour having Journey With Me & Grand Jury both with Henry, will be fascinating to see which route they go with GC if he wins this weekend.

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        • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
          Gerri Colombe declared in the 2m7 novice hurdle at Thurles on Sunday... Ballymore or Bartlett?

          With Robcour having Journey With Me & Grand Jury both with Henry, will be fascinating to see which route they go with GC if he wins this weekend.
          Gordon won the race with Torygraph last year - which went Bartlett!

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          • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
            Gerri Colombe declared in the 2m7 novice hurdle at Thurles on Sunday... Ballymore or Bartlett?

            With Robcour having Journey With Me & Grand Jury both with Henry, will be fascinating to see which route they go with GC if he wins this weekend.
            I'm taking it as a negative for Geri Ballymore bets and a negative for Journey With Me AB bets. So not great for me!

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            • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

              I'm taking it as a negative for Geri Ballymore bets and a negative for Journey With Me AB bets. So not great for me!
              Agree with the Gerri Ballymore, but wholly disagree with the JWM AB bets.

              JWM goes for the 2m6f Grade 1 at DRF. In the last four years, taking the first four horses home (total 16 horses), 10 went to Albert Bartlett, 3 didn't go to festival, 2 Bally, 1 Pipe - unless I've screwed up my maths, which is definitely possible! I'm comfortable with JWMs currently intended target destination. Less so with GC.

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              • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                I'm taking it as a negative for Geri Ballymore bets and a negative for Journey With Me AB bets. So not great for me!
                A lot of people on here seem to be deciding where Journey With Me ends up based on where Gerri Colombe might end up.

                Gerri won't affect where Journey With Me ends up. Robcour have them with different trainers. I'm not having that the owners decide where they run. They'll leave it down to Henry & Gordon and if they clash so be it. Bit different if say Grand Jury was entered up in the Bartlett, who is also trained by Henry, but I can't see that happening.

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                • Originally posted by Odin View Post

                  Agree with the Gerri Ballymore, but wholly disagree with the JWM AB bets.

                  JWM goes for the 2m6f Grade 1 at DRF. In the last four years, taking the first four horses home (total 16 horses), 10 went to Albert Bartlett, 3 didn't go to festival, 2 Bally, 1 Pipe - unless I've screwed up my maths, which is definitely possible! I'm comfortable with JWMs currently intended target destination. Less so with GC.
                  If he goes DRF that is. The ground will be a concern....... again!

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                  • DD out to 8/1 for this. Something has happened this afternoon to make the bookies more confident he is going supreme....

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                    • Originally posted by callhimgamblor View Post
                      DD out to 8/1 for this. Something has happened this afternoon to make the bookies more confident he is going supreme....
                      If its Bet365, its probably to reduce cashout payouts.
                      They've gone big all winter like that, looking at odds with the market on occasions.
                      Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 21 January 2022, 05:56 PM.
                      "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                      • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                        If its Bet365, its probably to reduce cashout payouts.
                        They've hone big all winter like that, looking at odds with the market on occasions.
                        It is indeed. ?50 dropped off my cashout and I had a quick heart attack and then went to investigate!

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                        • Sir G does seem very popular for this at the moment. Seems crazy backing him at these sort of prices to me. Surely he wins at DRF and supreme seems most likely. He's beaten at DRF and probably drifts for this anyway (possibly depending on how badly he's beaten but hard to see him shortening much from 4/1, even with a narrow defeat at DRF).

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                          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                            Sir G does seem very popular for this at the moment. Seems crazy backing him at these sort of prices to me. Surely he wins at DRF and supreme seems most likely. He's beaten at DRF and probably drifts for this anyway (possibly depending on how badly he's beaten but hard to see him shortening much from 4/1, even with a narrow defeat at DRF).
                            Terrible price.
                            Worst priced Festival fav?
                            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                            • Has any trainer of any of the horses in the top 10 in the betting for this even said that this race is the target? I can't think of one. Crazy year.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                                Has any trainer of any of the horses in the top 10 in the betting for this even said that this race is the target? I can't think of one. Crazy year.
                                Hendo on Walking On Air

                                Not directly said 'this is' the target, but more 'thinking along the lines of the ballymore'.. same thing really but a bit more hendo-esque.

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